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SeoulFood
On Point Joined: Feb 14 2016 Location: Korea Status: Offline Points: 67 |
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Posted: May 08 2016 at 8:53am |
So I've been on here for a while now, but better late than never, right? I'm an Army MP, currently in Korea. This is my second year here, so it's been a little while since I've shot my trusty carbine :/ Last year, long days and nights at gunnery and training in the field made it evident to me that it I needed a rifle of my own to look forward to when I came home. So, I got an Inland from the CMP through the mail. I took some leave between my first and the beginning of my second year. Out of everything I did throughout my 28 days back in the homeland, I think the best part was just shooting watermelons with my new war baby, by my old church, and just a few minutes away from my hometown- in Dayton, Ohio. To me, these rifles, and especially the Inlands, are a direct connection to home. With that being said, politics permitting, hopefully the last of the Korean carbines can come home with me after this next election..? :D |
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weimar_police
On Point Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: near Philly Status: Offline Points: 69 |
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Very nice - I was stationed at Camp Humphreys, south of Seoul.
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Edward Tinker
************ Co-Author of Police Lugers 2012 Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I / Vol II and Vol III Co-Author of the book Simson Lugers |
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SeoulFood
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Mr. Tinker, I'm on Humphreys, too. How long ago were you stationed here, If you don't mind me asking? |
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New2brass
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Welcome to the forums!
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cali201
Grunt Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 198 |
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while you are in Korea you should hunt down and bring home as many carbine parts as possible---you might be able to retire!!
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SeoulFood
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Cali, I really want to but not sure how to acquire them... or if that's even legal :/ |
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cali201
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thousands of stocks have come into the US from Korea the past few years. One of the guys who sold a ton of them said he was in discussion to bring parts in but after he had a hard time selling the stocks (most were nice firewood) he pulled back. Bolts, slides, etc. everything except receivers would and should be simple to bring in. But if the metal is in the same condition as the stocks were then who knows.
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lbelflowers
Recruit Joined: Jan 15 2016 Location: Fayetteville NC Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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I was in Korea,1983-1984,B Co. 102nd Military Intelligence Bn. Radar Site 6 and 8, 2nd Infantry Div.
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SeoulFood
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Ibelflowers, that's pretty cool! Korea has changed quite a bit since you've been here, I'm sure. God knows the Army has too. Cali, that's a good idea. I've put some of my KATUSA's to work on finding who I can talk to about the carbines. No luck so far. I'm going to have to do more research though, and probably a little bit of talking to the KNP, I'm not taking any chances on ending up in their jail system!! But I do want to see if I can't at least bring one or two carbines/almost complete carbines home. |
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wd4ngb
On Point Joined: Feb 17 2016 Location: Tennessee Status: Offline Points: 121 |
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I was stationed in Korea 4 times, and have lots of memories, both good and bad. I was at Casey and Kaiser (old camp about 20 miles N/E of Casey) 60-61,
Stanley and St Barbara 69-70, Humphreys 78-79, and Camp Red Cloud 81-82. I actually carried a M2 on my 60-61 tour and loved it. I carried a chopped M2 in Vietnam in 66-67, and nicknamed it "Sweet Thing". During my time in the Army, I carried a M1 Garand M2 Carbine, M14, M14A1E1, and a M16. The Carbine had a few negatives, but was my Favorite. |
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Retired Army, 22 years.
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SeoulFood
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Mr. Richards, thank you for your service! That's quite a bit of overseas time- I really can't imagine myself being here for much longer than my two years. I am really astounded by how much change you must have seen in your time in the Army, and how different the Army must have been back then. There's many things I'm not jealous of you for, however- I would have loved to carry an M2!
I've mostly carried 249's here. On occasion I carried the M4. Of course, on patrols I carried the M9. That was last year, though, this year I am in a more administrative-in-nature type job. Between the two long-guns, I liked the SAW more- to me, at least, it seemed the SAW was more reliable. With my luck, I always drew a weapon previously held by a KATUSA, and it seemed none of them cleaned their weapons, so there would often be noticeable rust throughout them. The way our weapons draw worked was kind of unorganized and often I would draw a different rifle than the one I carried before. In field conditions it was difficult to get rifles clean enough to reliably fire, but I had much better luck cleaning the 249 than the M4. At any rate, I just don't trust the M4, and so when I first sought to buy a rifle of my own, the 30 carbine was appealing. When I found out many of them were made in my hometown, I just had to have one! Mr. Tinker- I didn't know you were an MP! Were you a part of the 557th? Cali- if you don't mind telling me, I would like to know more about whom ever you said imported rifle stocks back to the states. I briefly discussed with an ATF official about import laws and the forms I would have to fill out, it seems I might be able to import parts or maybe even entire rifles (with a ton of paperwork and special authorizations- all hoops I'm willing to jump through if the opportunity presents itself). However, before I can do anything I need a Korean point of contact that has access to parts, rifles, etc. I'm doing my own investigating, but I think my best bet would be to find somebody who has done it before. Most of the Koreans I've spoken with don't know where to even begin looking. I have an idea of which offices might be responsible for some of the rifles, but even those offices are kind of big and there is no telling if any of them will know anything about them, or if they'll even care enough to look into it. Any thing you can tell me will definitely be appreciated! I'm glad to know there's quite a few vets in the club. A wealth of knowledge of not just carbines but all around military and life experiences on here. I really appreciate you guys, this forum is exactly the wealth of information younger guys like myself need.
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wd4ngb
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The 1st tour in 60-61 was very Unique, with it sort of like the old Western Movies, but everyone wearing OD. Just replace Miss Kitty with Miss Kim. :) We had no Status of Forces in Korea till my 2nd tour, so the KNP had no jurisdiction over US Forces, so the MPs and CID were kept VERY busy.
My 2nd tour 69-70 was actually the best. I was a SP6 (Odd Rank even then), so could afford to do some sight seeing from other than in a Army Truck. My Company was at Stanley, but I was in a 12 man Detachment up near the Chinese Tunnel and Rodriguez Range. The little villages up there were just like Dodge City, with everyone speaking broken English. :) Here is my Carbine page I just set up recently. http://webpages.charter.net/wd4ngb/ The Carbine was not the best weapon I used while in the Army, but it was my overall favorite. I am looking forward to the Inland Advisor Pistol being in the stores so I can build my Sweet Thing Clone. |
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SeoulFood
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No Status of Forces Agreement! That sounds better than what we have now. I'm sure the Koreans would disagree, but I'm not a big fan of the KNP. In my experience they often pursue Americans much more aggressively than they will go after Koreans for the same crimes. In my opinion, if they don't think it's worth dealing with us to let us handle our own soldiers, then they shouldn't need us here.. Glad you had a good time though. Casey should be closing up soon; everybody is on their way down to Humphreys eventually. Or, so they've been saying anyway. SP6? I've only heard rumors that there used to be old SP5 and above ranks. I've always wondered what that would be like- in practice- and why they got rid of the rank (to save money I'm guessing). The story about your platoon sgt letting you take a class on the M2 is pretty cool. I'm guessing you were sort of the technical expert in the platoon for the M2 after that. It will be interesting to see how your "sweet thing" replica turns out. I'll be sure to check your page every now and again :) |
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wd4ngb
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The villages were just like the old Wild West back then. :) Yea the Specialist Rank had a lot of advantages to the Army and the individual. The Sp5 were pretty common, but Sp6 and above only in the Tech MOS. Many were latter made into Cilivan Slots or Warrants. It also allowed someone to become very proficient in there job, rather than becoming a NCO, and no longer improving there technical skills. Some of the larger fields that had Spec 6 and above were Lab Tech, Jag Legal Assistants, Med Techs, Intel Tech, etc. I was promoted to SP7, but shortly after, converted to SFC.
The classes on the M2 did just that, and were really key to me choosing to carry the M2 in Nam, and being able to take care of it. The 1st batch of the new Advisor Pistols left the factory last Friday,, headed to there Wholesale Distributors, then on to the stores. I check several each day, ready to order mine, :) |
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