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Sawbones
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Posted: Sep 19 2022 at 7:01pm |
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Yes, I was depressing the release button. Upon further consideration I agree w/ you. Initially I had to lightly tap it out w/ a wooden stick and hammer. Soon as I figure out how to post photos I'll send pics of where I sanded the surfaces.
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W5USMC
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And you said Sawbones that it was hard to remove when you first tried it, I assume that you were pressing the mag release then? Thinking the filing was needed.
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floydthecat
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Don’t beat yourself up too bad. Most of them do require a little fitting and it can be trigger housing specific.
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Sawbones
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Du-u-uh-h, closer and smarter inspection of the plastic magazine and the Type 3 magazine catch on the carbine (the button ya push to jettison the magazine) reveals ya gotta depress the magazine catch button to facilitate insertion of the plastic magazine! Doing so the magazine slips in slicker'n a Tootsie Roll Pop! Could it possibly be the plastic magazine didn't need whittlin' at all??!!
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Sawbones
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The resistance was in the rear top of the mag. just above the 2 parallel ridges that guide the mag. into the well. Sanded that down as well as the ridges a little and now works very well. In the future I would paint surfaces w/ Liquid Paper, let it dry, insert into well, withdraw and see where the Liquid paper is scraped off. That would indicate where the resistance is. Thanks again Floydthecat.
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Sawbones
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Floydthecat, I crammed it inand out a few times and see where the plastic is scored in the tight spots. I was fixin' to put the caliper on the plastic and USGI and compare when I got your note. I'll holler if I need the pics.
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Sawbones
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The 4 round mag. arrived from Numrich today. Very tight fit in magazine well but soft points cycle as they should. Was a real Hillary to get the empty mag. outa the well though. 'Zackly where do I whittle to get it to slide in/out easily w/o having to use a hammer? Perhaps some pics w/ sticky paper applied to area(s) needing sanding? Thanks in advance. |
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floydthecat
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Try it and see. If it’s too tight, we can help you fit it, but like I said above…..I will swap you one if you have difficulty.
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Sawbones
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Wayne, Thanx-amundo! Just bought one; 40 bucks w/ tax & shipping. All I found elsewhere were pretty battered up used Universal stuff. This one is brand new in box Iver Johnson manufactured made of Lexan plastic which is one of the hardest, toughest plastics on the planet. Will this one need whittlin' on to make it fit in my carb.? This will make my carb. a dandy hog gun down here in Texas.
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Wayne nailed it. Prolly won’t find a better price. If you have trouble fitting, I will trade you one that is fitted.
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Wayne
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floydthecat
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Surf ebay and gunbroker, maybe others or just do a general google search for “universal m1 carbine magazine”. You might turn up GI mags as they also fit Universals, but you are looking for the Black Plastic 4-round mag. Fitting is not a big issue and it might slip right in….depends on the carbine, but you just have to know what to polish….me and Wayne do.😁 Be sure and inquire about any splits or cracks. Many of them you see for sale are cracked in the rear web. That will never happen unless one tries to force in more that four rounds, or leaves the mag loaded for long periods of time. You can pm me with an email address for pictures or additional help.
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David Milisock
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That's funny my Quality Hardware and my Inland eats all FMJ and all soft points I've ever tried except many years ago some Winchester hollow points.
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Sawbones
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Hey floydthecat, where do I get a universal mag that'll work and where can I find instructions on how to whittle on it to make it work. Thanx in advance. sls
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Sawbones
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Yeah Rebel, my Q.H. has an undated ROCK-OLA also. the common denominator.
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floydthecat
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Get a Universal mag…..😂.
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Rebel92
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at some point i think they made some changes with the barrel. Mine is an undated rock-ola barrel. someone will have the answers.
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Sawbones
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Yeah Rebel, ditto my Q.H.M.C. It ate all those milsurps you sent w/o a single misfeed. Hates soft points just like your Q.H. Must be brand-unique.
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floydthecat
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One can whine, complain, grind or modify a receiver, magazine or ammo…..or use something that already works.😁
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