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painter777
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But no one did in fact 'Agree or Disagree'
Seems your getting a bit soft Louis But our thanks to your Trivia questions. Cheers, CH-P777
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Living Free because of those that serve.....
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W5USMC
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Smokpole, don't think anyone is doubting what is written in your 1942 manual. As time goes on procedures get evaluated and revised. For instance, FM 23-7 dated May 1942 says to clean the carbine immediately after firing with "warm soapy water", try and find that written in a later dated manual. @Charlie, I agree with the way I was taught.
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painter777
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I hear you Wayne and fully understand, just poking with Louis.
I know Jim's Dad was a Glider. I looked up the June 15, 42 copy of FM23-30 it say's what he pretty much posted, but like you've pointed out they changed out quick. That one was revised a few months later. Section II Throwing Techniques Sec (C) Page 12 is bottom link CH-P777
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Smokpole
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Just to add a little info: hand written at the top of the cover....
Hq. Co. 2nd Bn. 193 At that time he would have been in the 82 Inf. (AB) He enter the service before the 82nd changed from Infantry to Airbourne. |
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Louis Losi
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U.S. MILITARY HAND GRENADE TRIVIA
Why does this U.S. hand grenade have a yellow band at the top of the grenade?
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W5USMC
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Getting too easy on us Louis, three in a row that I didn't have to go look up, going to sit this one out.
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floydthecat
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HE
Thanks Wayne for giving us a chance.
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Marty Black
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The yellow band indicates high explosive.
Regards, mb |
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Marty Black
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Louis's post about the yellow stripe on HE ordnance reminded me of a funny story. I have a friend who was stationed on Okinawa in the early 1980s, and he enjoyed looking for war relics with a metal detector (as do I.) One day he was on a grassy hill very close to his house.
He lived in a US Military family housing area that, in the 1960s, had been built upon the epic USMC "Sugar Loaf Hill" defensive complex battle area. This area had been cleared and groomed "above ground," but not below ground. In fact, my friend found a US frag grenade when he dug a garden in his back yard there. Anyhow, one day in 1981, his metal detector got a strong hit on this grassy hill and he dug up a partially-intact US steel ammo can, and there was a US frag grenade inside. Finding US and Japanese hand grenades on Okinawa was not uncommon, but this particular grenade was in really good shape. The pull-ring and "spoon" (safety lever) were rusty, but the cast iron body was in great shape and portions of the yellow stripe remained. My friend had never found a grenade in such nice condition. But when he picked it up to examine it closely, the cotter pin on the pull-ring fell apart and the "spoon" fell to the ground! He instinctively threw the grenade as hard as he could and went prone awaiting a possible explosion. After several minutes of silence, he got up and walked over to it. It was then that he realized that the striker spring was also rusty and never swung around to strike the primer and begin the 5-second sequence to detonation. He unscrewed the fuze assembly and poured out the yellow TNT. After he drilled out the fuze train, rendering it completely inert, he gave it to me. I replaced the cotter pin with one from a hardware store. Unfortunately, after more than 40 years of sitting on a shelf, only a few small fragments of yellow paint remain. The paint has mostly flaked off. I'm glad I wasn't with him that day, as I probably would've wet my pants. Although I too did some foolish things with ordnance I found, when enthusiasm overcame common sense. Thankfully, both my friend and I retired from the service without any injuries. And since then, I've come to the realization that I'm NOT immortal. Better late than never! Be careful out there! Regards, mb |
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Louis Losi
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The three of you are correct, the yellow band indicates a high explosive filler. It should be noted that prior to 1943 the entire grenade body was yellow, no olive drab, the yellow body being a target for the enemy to aim at, thus the yellow band.
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Smokpole
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Fragmentation grenade....
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U.S. MILITARY HAND GRENADE TRIVIA
If you agree or disagree with the following statement, explain why. If it weren't for the United States Navy, this hand grenade wouldn't exist. |
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Marty Black
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Ahh yes! John Paul Jones: "Surrender?! Hell no! I have not yet begun to fight!"
"Able Seaman Losi, go below decks and bring up a case of hand grenades!" True story....mb |
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Louis Losi
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You are correct, Marty, it was the United States Navy that adopted both the MKI(MarkI) and MKII(MarkII) hand grenades. Any military item the U.S. Navy adopts first will have U.S. Naval nomenclature beginning with MK or Mark. Why would the U.S. Navy need hand grenades? Well, you have to remember the United States Marine Corps is part of the U.S. Navy and it was the USMC the hand grenades would be the recipient of. In 1945 the nomenclature was changed to MK2. The U.S Navy adopted the MKI hand grenade in 1917 but it was problematic and by 1920 the MKII hand grenade was being used. Other weapons to be first adopted by the U.S. Navy is the MKI Model 1903 Springfield rifle that used the Pedersen Device and the 7.62 NATO conversions of the M1 rifle, the MK2 Mod0 and the MK2 Mod1, the MK1 being the 1903 Springfield rifle used with the Pedersen Devive.
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Louis Losi
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U.S. MILITARY M16 RIFLE TRIVIA
Why is there a protuberance beneath M16 magazine locking slot? |
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floydthecat
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A stop to prevent jumping the catch?
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Louis Losi
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Incorrect answer.
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Smokpole
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Must have something to do with the bolt release....
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Louis Losi
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Incorrect answer.
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floydthecat
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To index the magazine to the mag-well.
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