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I was just going through the field manual so I'd be better prepared before going to the range with my old boss.  This mentioned in the version I was reading. 
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Many more soldiers are right handed. It's easier for a right hander to load if the top round is on the right.
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Originally posted by jim77cg jim77cg wrote:

Many more soldiers are right handed. It's easier for a right hander to load if the top round is on the right.
You are 100% correct. The en bloc clip functions whether the top round is on the right or left, but top round on the right favors right handed shooters, who are in the majority, loading the en bloc clip into the receiver.
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Here's one source, the one I mentioned.
FM 23-5, 1951
III. 35  page 74
"However, if the uppermost cartridge is on the right, the clip can be more easily forced into the receiver by a right hand firer."


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U.S. MILITARY CARTRIDGE TRIVIA
Identify the cartridge whose projectile leaves the bore at a mile a second.
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How about a 120mm smooth bore cannon loaded with Kinetic Energy (KE) ammo that travels at supersonic. MV=1750 m/sec  or  5741 ft/sec
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Originally posted by painter777 painter777 wrote:

How about a 120mm smooth bore cannon loaded with Kinetic Energy (KE) ammo that travels at supersonic. MV=1750 m/sec  or  5741 ft/sec
You are correct. It is the 120mm, APFSDS, ARMOR PIERCING FIN STABILIZED DISCARDING SABOT cartridge used in the M1 Abrams tank. The cartridge consist of the casing which is consumed upon firing leaving only the steel base. The projectle consists of the depleted uranium penetrator and the sabot which is composed of three aluminum segments attached to the penetrator. When the projectile exits the bore of the cannon barrel, the three piece sabot seperates from the penetrator The depleted uranium penetrator contains no explosive. It will prenetrate the armor steel of a tank, using kinetic energy, causing the heat from the penetrator and armor tank steel to cause an explosion within the tank. I've included pictures from Fort Knox Tank School practice loading and unloading cartridge, a classroom training penetrator and the steel base after firing. All of the pictures are for the 120mm TARGET PRACTICE CONE STABILIZED DISCARDING SABOT cartridge. The cone on the target practice cartridge is to reduce velocity. Photos are in next post.
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Identify the weapon with a front sight that is part of the trigger guard.
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FP-45 Liberator pistol.

Edited by W5USMC - Apr 09 2023 at 8:45pm
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Originally posted by W5USMC W5USMC wrote:

FP-45 Liberator pistol.
You are correct, it is the FP-45 pistol manufactured during WWII. FP, Flare Pistol, a designation to confuse our enemies. The FP-45 is a smooth bore single shot .45ACP pistol that was intended to be dropped behind enemy lines for partisans to use to acquire a better weapon to use from the enemy. It came with 10 cartridges stored in the butt. All cartridges are head stamped FA 42(Frankfort Arsenal 1942). It had no markings or serial number. An instruction sheet using drawings, no words, to operate the pistol was supplied. Three variations were produced. The reason it was smooth bore is rifling would have increased chamber pressure in a stamped sheet metal and welded weapon reducing the already short life span of the pistol. A reproduction is available today with rifling, manufacturer's name and serial number required by law. Information from a June 1954 American Rifleman article is included.



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The Liberator: A literal and necessary garbage gun.
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U.S. MILITARY HAND GRENADE TRIVIA
If you agree or disagree with the following statement, explain why.
In practice or combat, soldiers are taught to hold a hand grenade in the palm of the hand in the normal upright position or hold a hand grenade in the palm of the hand in the upside down position before pulling the pin and throwing the grenade.
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According to the basic manual, the grenade is to be gripped with the safety lever against the palm of the hand so it doesn't have to be shifted in the hand when removing the safety pin. It is also held that way to insure that the hand does not grip the fuse. Gripping the fuse would cause the grenade to wobble in flight thereby reducing accuracy of the throw and range of the throw. The fuse could also catch the fingers causing the grenade to drop immediately after leaving the hand. (page 12 section c Throwing technique) FM 23-30 June 15, 1942
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Also illustrated is fuse up for throwing from kneeling position and fuse down for throwing from prone....

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Here is what the Marine Corps teaches at TBS:

Safety and throwing efficiency are obtained when the grenade is held in the throwing hand with the safety lever placed between the first and second joints of the thumb.

For right-handed personnel, the grenade is held upright with the pull ring away from the palm of the throwing hand so that it can be easily removed by the index finger or middle finger of the free hand.

For left-handed personnel, the grenade is inverted with the fingers and thumb of the throwing hand positioned in the same manner as by the right-handed person. 

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Originally posted by Smokpole Smokpole wrote:

According to the basic manual, the grenade is to be gripped with the safety lever against the palm of the hand so it doesn't have to be shifted in the hand when removing the safety pin. It is also held that way to insure that the hand does not grip the fuse. Gripping the fuse would cause the grenade to wobble in flight thereby reducing accuracy of the throw and range of the throw. The fuse could also catch the fingers causing the grenade to drop immediately after leaving the hand. (page 12 section c Throwing technique) FM 23-30 June 15, 1942

Originally posted by Smokpole Smokpole wrote:

Also illustrated is fuse up for throwing from kneeling position and fuse down for throwing from prone....
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Originally posted by W5USMC W5USMC wrote:

Here is what the Marine Corps teaches at TBS:

Safety and throwing efficiency are obtained when the grenade is held in the throwing hand with the safety lever placed between the first and second joints of the thumb.

For right-handed personnel, the grenade is held upright with the pull ring away from the palm of the throwing hand so that it can be easily removed by the index finger or middle finger of the free hand.

For left-handed personnel, the grenade is inverted with the fingers and thumb of the throwing hand positioned in the same manner as by the right-handed person.

You are correct. Here is an illustration from FM 23-30 GRENADES AND PYROTECHNICS that demonstrates what you have posted.



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Well, if I'm incorrect then so was the Basic field manual published by the war department in 1942....I have a copy of my fathers in my hands right now.

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Originally posted by Smokpole Smokpole wrote:

Well, if I'm incorrect then so was the Basic field manual published by the war department in 1942....I have a copy of my fathers in my hands right now.
Please scan and post the information from the manual showing what you posted is correct.
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