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Smokpole
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Correction....Part of the Dutch blank firing assembly. it is the deflector that attaches to the rear sight. It is the blank cartridge deflector.
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Not a case deflector.
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Wayne
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Louis Losi
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Your answer is incorrect. Louis Losi
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Your answer is incorrect.
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Louis Losi
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It is not a case deflector, but what is it?
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Often advertised as a case deflector it is actually a Breech Shield used with the Dutch BFA to prevent gases, unburnt powder and debris from flying back into the shooters face when firing blank rounds.
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Louis Losi
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Your answer is correct. Items 9 and 10 from the September 1966 American Rifleman article BLANK FIRING ATTACHMENTS pictures the M1 carbine blank firing adapter and the guard. Louis Losi |
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Smokpole
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According to WBII it is a case deflector. Don't tell me Ruth was wrong! O MY!
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New2brass
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Many books when published were believed to have accurate information, but at times new information comes to light. So back in 1993 Larry though this to be accurate. I will check Larry's list of corrections to see if he was planning on updating this information, as he did in WB 3 for anything he found needing a correction. This device was reported to the club by Bill Ricca and published in CCNL 14 Dec 1977. Bill points out that the M6 should not be used with the Dutch device. Then in 2013 there were internet sales advertising them as "Original WW2 or later M1 Carbine Brass Case Deflectors" CCNL 378 reports of these sales. The author of that report quips "it is indeed 'or later' " More information was added in CCNL 384, by the same person, who happens to be the OP of this thread. What is interesting is if you look at WB page 793 you will learn this device was used with plastic blank bullets that just had a brass base. If it was a deflector, then it would be a Plastic Case Deflector. CCNL 231-3, 283-7, and 352-2 reports the NMW ammo. For anyone interested in how this Breech Shield fits on a carbine, take a look at the following link. So clearly this is a case where the incorrect information sticks in peoples minds. Thanks to Louis for bringing it up for us to discuss. I will take a picture of the blanks and upload later. |
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New2brass
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TRIVIA QUESTION
What does the M1 carbine and another weapon have in common? Identifying the weapon will help to answer the trivia question. Louis Losi
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sling00
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Any chance this is a trick question and its commonality with the M2 carbine?
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Louis Losi
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No, the other weapon is unrelated to the M1 carbine or it's variations.
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Oldboy53
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Butt plate screw, Garand?
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Louis Losi
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Incorrect answer, not the M1 rifle. I believe the M1 rifle and 03 Springfield rifle use the same long butt plate screw.
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New2brass
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That short butt plate screw was used on many weapons. I believe the Thompson, M1917 and others. When I searched the part number it was even used on a tank. Seem it was a standard type screw used by ordnance in many applications.
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"... have in common?" The carbine's type 2 rear sight and the rear sight on the M1903A3 are similar but not the same. Both have a dovetail (reverse execution, one to the other), similar protective wings, a windage knob, and an aperture that slides up a ramp (the M1903A3 ramp goes to 800y or past, the carbine's ramp goes to 300y).
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Louis Losi
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Clue to answering the trivia question. This is a picture of the M1 carbine oiler issued with the still unidentified weapon. There is one other item the M1 carbine has in common with this weapon. What is the other item and the weapon. |
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Jond41403
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Thompson submachine gun? Just a WAG haha
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jackp1028
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M3 submachine gun, also used the same sling as the carbine.
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