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    Posted: Jan 12 2023 at 4:02pm
Sorry Confused...I would swear it said "right".
That's odd, but thanks for mentioning it.
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oops, left side
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So the 90 degree Curved Barrel, the HFCo Grenade Launcher and the HFCo BFA were considered Experimental?
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http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/uploads/5600/HFCoCollection.jpg
Yep, they were from the Larry Ruth Collection.
The three on the left are experimental and we are accepting offers

Edit.  Dyslexia 


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Dan, that is most intersting.
Would you be able to reveal how and where?
What should I do being able to place a bid or make an offer on the single items in this collection?
Hope you can guide me.
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Yes, they are from a prolific collection. They will be going to an auction block, but offers will be considered.
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Thank you New2brass for sharing this photo.
A very neat and impressive collection!
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I'm going to guess that a group like that could only come from one collection. Very neat.
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http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/uploads/5600/HFCoCollection.jpg
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Thanks for sharing.
Yhat is indeed an interesting item!
I did not know that H-F made BFD's for the M1 Carbine.
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That picture of the grenade launcher is not what the hfco one looks like.

they also made a blank fire attachment




Warbaby three has the grenade launcher and the curves barrels near the back of the book


*EDIT*Pics moved. See WB pgs 1647-1648



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I thought it was broken stocks. But of course I wasn't there.
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Thank you New2Brass, for sharing.
It seems the M8 Launcher did cause severe problems when used on the M1 Carbine.
I know they ware taken out of service and this is obviously the reason.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote New2brass Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan 16 2022 at 9:09am
I mentioned above about possible problems with this device and the front sight.

Here is a thread questioning the front sight getting loose with a grenade launcher with low power loads.

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Originally posted by Anders Anders wrote:

New2Brass,
I already posted photos of the H-F Curved Barrel.
In regard to the reduced load ammo, a friend of mine in Montana told me he got that information from a friend years ago, that had a similar H-F Curved Barrel. I have no photos unfortunately. Wish I had!


Those are the auction pictures. If you won that auction post some pics on the carbine when you receive it!

As to the ammo, the curved barrel absorbs a lot of the energy when bouncing on the the curve. It is enough that there were reports (on the German device) that the bullets fragmented.
So the idea of a reduced load in actual uses seems to be odd.
However as the device is a novelty and commercial made there may have been special bullets. This gets back to my comment of losing your front sight when it gets ripped off.

You could try squib loads, however... the bore is approximately .40 and when the barrel bends it may be less than the .308 dimension of the bullet. If the bullet gets stuck in the barrel you may have trouble getting it out.
Worse, if you do not know the bullet is stuck a subsequent round may split your barrel.

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Thanks Matt_X, for that valuable information!
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New2Brass,
I already posted photos of the H-F Curved Barrel.
In regard to the reduced load ammo, a friend of mine in Montana told me he got that information from a friend years ago, that had a similar H-F Curved Barrel. I have no photos unfortunately. Wish I had!
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H-F Curved Barrel Extension - Accessories and Reference material

I am doing some research on Information regarding accessories, such as a Storage Box and/or Carrying Case and a User Guide.

If anybody can help please come forth and reply to this thread or send me a (PM) message.
Thank you in advance.



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The HF Co devices were evidently made for the early carbine collectors.
The price for the around the corner device was 35 dollars at the time. Most would consider it a hefty sum considering the cost of a carbine at the time.

The HF Co. around the corner device pointed up, so you could just tilt the carbine.
The Greasegun device had a lock collar on the threaded end of the barrel, so it would be a quick adjustment.

Anders: I know the blank devices used a low powered blank. Can you cite where you heard that the around the corner device used a reduced load ammo?

I am guessing you have one of these, how about posting some pictures!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Matt_X Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec 29 2021 at 1:45pm
That is shorthand for Carbine Club newsletter's 88, 92, 96 and 127 have some information about the HF Company.


Seems to me a neat idea but in reality a very special, limited use accessory.
It requires knowing ahead of time whether the enemy is around a left corner or a right corner.
It also requires really tight work with team mates who can cover straight ahead and other contingencies.

The tank crew explanation for the grease gun development effort seems plausible.  For street fighting it could be as much or more of a liability than a help..  maybe in a defensive only position.

I remember seeing the M3 submachine version pictured in one of Colby's books in the public library when I was a kid.  

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