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My M1A1 Inland Carbine

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    Posted: Mar 31 2021 at 5:24pm
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Great looking M1A1 - Thanks for sharing!
 I own 3 M1A1 Carbines
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Thanks for your post, I have learned a great deal about my carbine since coming to this forum. Like wear patterns never thought about that before, and much more.
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Very nice M1A1. Thanks for sharing
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Originally posted by jackp1028 jackp1028 wrote:

I'm convinced. That M1A1 is as good as it gets. Thanks for posting. That's three for three. What's next?
I wish I could say I had about twelve more, but the fact is I have one left that I will post about.  I started a new topic on the General Discussion forum about the P proof on Inland carbines.  My question was, when did they stop putting the circle P proof on the bottom of the pistol grip of the Inland stocks?  W5USMC said it stopped at the end of Inland's second serial number block.  (2912520-3212519)  My last carbine to post is an Inland, serial no. 3020305.  This carbine does have the circle P proof on the pistol grip, barrel date of 11-43.  This gun also has one of the nicest burled walnut stocks I've seen.  This carbine was in my late father's collection since 1960.  

I am a second generation collector.  He's responsible for my bad habit LOL.  
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I'm convinced. That M1A1 is as good as it gets. Thanks for posting. That's three for three. What's next?
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Originally posted by jackp1028 jackp1028 wrote:

The hammer makes a distinctive mark on the trigger housing, particularly on one that is well used. Notice the two dents where the hammer hits. The one on the left is from a dogleg hammer. The one on the right is from a later straight hammer.  This trigger housing was re-Parkerized after the dogleg hammer was replaced. Notice the bare metal exposed in the dent caused by the straight hammer.

I've taken these photos showing the wear pattern with the hammer cocked, you can clearly see a wear mark.  Other photo with hammer in fired position mates up with the wear pattern.  Unlike your photo showing your trigger housing, you can clearly see indentations in the metal, obviously from repeated firing.  You can see in my photo, there is very little in the way of any type of indentation.  The bore condition in this carbine is outstanding.  

It is my opinion that this carbine has been fired very little in its lifetime. My muzzle wear gauge reads about 1.5.  




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The hammer makes a distinctive mark on the trigger housing, particularly on one that is well used. Notice the two dents where the hammer hits. The one on the left is from a dogleg hammer. The one on the right is from a later straight hammer.



This trigger housing was re-Parkerized after the dogleg hammer was replaced. Notice the bare metal exposed in the dent caused by the straight hammer.
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Originally posted by 03collector 03collector wrote:

This carbine has the narrow slot it should be the wide type swivel. 

Here is what one of our very knowledgeable forum members (welbytwo) recently posted about early parts, "nothing ever wrong with too early--just bottom of skid , box or pile--be fearful of late parts"

Don't change that swivel. 

As JackP suggested, fill out and post a data sheet on that thing. Is the leaf on the flip sight marked?



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This carbine has the narrow slot it should be the wide type swivel. 
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In this picture, you will note wear patterns on the rear edge of the trigger guard.  I believe this is caused by the wear from the pistol grip.      
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Originally posted by Smokpole Smokpole wrote:

My old man was in the 82nd infantry when it became the 82nd AB. He stayed behind when the 82nd went to England to train the 101st AB. He eventually ended up in the 17th AB. He was a glider rider. Never talked about it much. I think he saw too much. He did talk a little about both the Bulge and crossing the Rhine. Wish he had told me more before he passed. I still have his insignias and ribbons as well as his wings. I even have one of his pay books when he was with the occupation troops for a short while. Nice carbine and jacket. BTW his Screaming Eagle is the early one with the white tongue.

It's interesting to see that your father was involved in all three airborne divisions of the ETO.  I don't think there are many vets who could say that.  

The M42 jump jacket in the background with my M1A1 paratrooper carbine, along with the jump pants (not pictured), were given to me back in 1979 by a man who became a very dear friend of mine:

S/Sgt Edward Prusa
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Ed participated in every action of the 101st Airborne during WWII.  He was awarded the Purple Heart with Oak Leaf Cluster, two Bronze Stars, the French Fourragere and Belgian Fourragere, and the Netherlands Orange Lanyard.  
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you betcha! just make sure the pattern exists on the recoil plate--that is for sure a m1a1 original receiver-now you have to determine is the finger print matching on the stock recoil plate. I have matched up two m1a1 receiver guns with original m1a1 stocks--only God and I know they ain't real mates-well maybe they are but they were apart for years if so-two orig 1/2s melted together. There is a side wear that shows up down by trigger on on trigger house from the fatboy grip as well
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"picture of the top of the trigger housing where the hammer hits on the left side?"
With the hammer cocked.
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Originally posted by welbytwo welbytwo wrote:

very nice looking and in range of known m1a1's--you can put a lot of the smell test to back burner by fotoing the rear receiver wear to see if it matches up with recoil and top plate wear of the m1a1 action--any one with much use at all it finger prints them--also is some wear that takes place from the fatboy grip on the trigger house--check that out--yours looks like it will have those as just looks to nice


Is this the type of wear pattern you're referring to? You can clearly see that the wear pattern on the back of the trigger guard mates up with the pistol grip on the stock.  I don't believe you'll have that type of wear pattern from a standard carbine stock. 
 


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Originally posted by jackp1028 jackp1028 wrote:

Also, could you post a picture of the top of the trigger housing where the hammer hits on the left side?


Is this the part you were referring to?  
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Fantastic looking m1A1! Would like to see a pinned topic on wear patterns of a true m1a1 sometime.
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My old man was in the 82nd infantry when it became the 82nd AB. He stayed behind when the 82nd went to England to train the 101st AB. He eventually ended up in the 17th AB. He was a glider rider. Never talked about it much. I think he saw too much. He did talk a little about both the Bulge and crossing the Rhine. Wish he had told me more before he passed. I still have his insignias and ribbons as well as his wings. I even have one of his pay books when he was with the occupation troops for a short while. Nice carbine and jacket. BTW his Screaming Eagle is the early one with the white tongue.
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