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Matt_X
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Can you post a photo, either here or on your thread at USmilitaria? If you can also show the slide opening as well, maybe some of the more knowledgable guys can say if it started as a highwood and got cut down or was always a low wood. From the photos you posted, I agree it looks to be unrestored and was missed in the various upgrade and rebuild programs.
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Connor38
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I will post pics for y’all.
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Connor38
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Here ya go boys. If you look between the 9 and what I think is a D you can see what I think is a faint 9. The RSG is there in the top of the sling well but it’s faint. I promise it’s there lol I apologize for the crummy photos. Edited by W5USMC - Dec 27 2022 at 12:17am |
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Matt_X
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Thanks. I agree its a 9 9 D The RSG is too faint for me to be sure I'm seeing it. Am I correct the letters are about the same size as a the 9 9? Let's call this a Type III stock as it left the factory unless someone more experienced informs us otherwise. ________________________________________ I'm going to work on updating the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet will allow quick sorting by serial number, stock type, or slingwell markings. We can then cut and paste them back in the thread, or maybe give it to Jack for a supplement to his SG sheets. One change that needs to implemented is some way to uniquely identify the stock so we know if we have two that are similar versus two reports of the same stock. |
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Connor38
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If the D is a different size it’s close to whatever size the 9 is. I can look at it again in person.
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Matt_X
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I would describe the RSG in both of these as approximately the same size lettering as the numbers In contrast to the RSG letters in the next photo which are smaller than the numbers. |
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Connor38
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My hand guard is marked with the small RSG which is also faint. My sling well I believe has the same small font RSG. It’s just barely there, but with the right light you can make it out.
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Matt_X
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A big thanks to everyone who has contributed. Please keep them coming! List Update 1. This is a summary following the same format Painter777 posted early in this thread. Stocks are listed in order of the sling well stamp number and then letter. 2. The question arose whether there were duplicate reports of the same stock on the list. Therefore, on the full spreadsheet I am now including additional information which will not be posted on-line. A full serial number will help this - send it to me by if you don't want to post it on-line. Type Slingwell Stamps Carbine 2 6 B RSG 3,256 1 ? 8 E IR-IP 3,259 2 [? 8?] F TRIMBEL TN/ S.G. 3,341 2 [8 or S] 7B RSG unk narrow tang? 2 U 7 8 A 3,262 2 9 A RSG Unk 2 14 F _SG obscured refinished loose stock 2 36 B RSG 3,44 2? 39 A OI 3,37 34F RSG 3,35 1 40A RMC Unk 2 40A OI UnK 2 41 B TRIMBLE/TN+SG UnK 1 43F RMC 3,348 45D OI 3,38 2? 46 A IO 3,357 2 47E RSG loose stock 4 8 D TRIMBLE TN/ TSG Unk 2? 48D TRIMBLE TN/TSG 3,384 2? 49E RSG 3,39 2* 51A RSG 3,328 2 51E RSG loose stocl 2* 53E RSG 5,858 2 56 RSG 3,400 62C RSG 3,42 2 67 C RSG 3,47 2 75E RSG UnK 2 76 F RSG 3,501 2 82E RSG loose stock 2* 84 D RSG 3,668 ? 2 88F RSG UnK 2* 94B, x RSG on Inland, Underwood rebuild 3 99D RSG 5,85 3 101A X RSG on IBM, RIA Overhaul 3 102 A RSG 5,861 102 B RSG loose stock 3 102, O RSG 5,861 3 105B RSG UnK 105F RSG 5,56 2* G105 R.S.G. 5,86 O RSG Unk, on QHMC 2 SG & Bomb TRIMBLE TN Unk AA rebuild 2 bomb, 7 C RSG loose stock 2 bomb, A 8 RSG 3,262 _____________________________________________ 2* = Low wood that may have been cut down.
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New2brass
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3.47 original appearing. high wood oval SG over 78E. Appears to be a Trimble stock based on the nose shape
Edited by New2brass - Feb 25 2023 at 12:58pm |
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Matt_X
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Loose ? Info added
Edited by New2brass - Feb 25 2023 at 12:58pm |
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Matt_X
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From Larry Ruth's collection. (#91) Type III (Low wood) SG Ord Stamps. stock on 3390816, unknown if original to carbine. Underwood Rebuild program stamp. RSG small upper right of slingwell A 3 5 in middle |
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pchanu
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Just checked my 2 SG stocks
3 75E TRIMBLE TN Unk, AAM rebuild 2 76F Unk, but a R is visible SG 3,486 |
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New2brass
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Asa Overall shares an interesting one, a RMC I-cut with no SG in slingwell. It does however have the SG number/letter of 90E The interesting thing is it has the side cut for a rotated springtube. This would suggest earlier production stock. Did RMC send earlier and it sat around at Saginaw, or did it hang around RMC and sent later? Unfortunately there is no longer any CC on the stock |
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New2brass
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Asa also shares a 3,381,xxx SAG oval cut highwood with SG in box and CC. The slingwell is marked Trimble TN and SG with 38 A Checking a loose stock on hand it is also a Trimble TN over S.G. with 38 B. The number fonts are different between Asa's and this one and there are clearly periods between S and G
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jangle
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Original Carbine 3325xxx Type 2 stock: RSG 31 E Bomb Original Carbine 3508xxx Type 2 stock. Very difficult to make out because of the roughness of wood fibers. Looks like: RSG Bomb 1 E Loose Type 2 stock: RSG Bomb A Edited by New2brass - Oct 11 2023 at 11:14am |
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Matt_X
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Jangle. Thanks! Those add a new dimension to the ordnance bomb marked stocks. Did those stocks all have SG acceptance stamps? I ask because I had been speculating the bomb stamp represented approval by Army inspectors for early production and those purchased direct by the US for replacements
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New2brass
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Hmm, the loose stock looks like it may be a 9? the one above might be 81? a page or two back Matt points out a ord bomb in a picture. also a page or two back there is a RSG O, believed to be a "spares" Since there was also a RSG 0 reported that is actually a Q and has proper QHMC CC I think the O were type 2 stocks. In going with the theory that the numbers were done in an order we would see a transition of T1 stocks to T2. Who is gonna be the updater of the list, Charlie or Matt? |
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Mike in NC
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A few other SG stock markings to add to the list. None are original to the carbine these are now on if any. All of these have the SG in a box and crossed cannon on the right side.
Type 2 (highwood oval stocks) IO 41 C Q-RMC 53 C RSG (large letters) 60 C Type 3 (low wood oval stocks) RSG (large letters) 102 E RSG (large letters, upside down) sideways Oval 103 B |
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gglithox
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I don't know if this counts but a Saginaw S'G' #1830210 came with this OI flaming bomb with 9 Type 1 I stock. There is no viable cartouch on right side.
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jangle
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Yes Matt, all have boxed SG and CC cartouche on right side. New2brass, I've photographed at different angles and lighting and really cannot make out anything other than what I've noted. If someone sees something different, it's fine by me.
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