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Ruth: SG Stock marked OI/40A, Found OI/39A

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My hand guard is marked with the small RSG which is also faint. My sling well I believe has the same small font RSG. It’s just barely there, but with the right light you can make it out. 
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I would describe the RSG in both of these as approximately the same size lettering as the numbers


In contrast to the RSG letters in the next photo which are smaller than the numbers.
 
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If the D is a different size it’s close to whatever size the 9 is. I can look at it again in person.
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Originally posted by Connor38 Connor38 wrote:

Here ya go boys. If you look between the 9 and what I think is a D you can see what I think is a faint 9. The RSG is there in the top of the sling well but it’s faint.
Thanks.
I agree its a 9 9 D
The RSG is too faint for me to be sure I'm seeing it.  Am I correct the letters are about the same size as a the 9 9?
Let's call this a Type III stock as it left the factory unless someone more experienced informs us otherwise. 

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I'm going to work on updating the spreadsheet.  
The spreadsheet will allow quick sorting by serial number, stock type, or slingwell markings.
We can then cut and paste them back in the thread, or maybe give it to Jack for a supplement to his SG sheets. 

One change that needs to implemented is some way to uniquely identify the stock so we know if we have two that are similar versus two reports of the same stock.



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Here ya go boys. If you look between the 9 and what I think is a D you can see what I think is a faint 9. The RSG is there in the top of the sling well but it’s faint. I promise it’s there lol I apologize for the crummy photos. 









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I will post pics for y’all.
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Originally posted by Connor38 Connor38 wrote:

5.855 S.G. With an RSG Stock. Sling well has 9 D as well as a faint RSG. The carbine is believed to be as issued. Has SG in the the box as well as the ordnance stamp on the right side. 

It’s very hard to tell, but with the right lighting it appears there may be an 8 or a 9 between the definitive 9 and D making it a possible 98 or 99 D 

Can you post a photo, either here or on your thread at USmilitaria?
If you can also show the slide opening as well, maybe some of the more knowledgable guys can say if it started as a highwood and got cut down or was always a low wood.

From the photos you posted, I agree it looks to be unrestored and was missed in the various upgrade and rebuild programs.
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5.855 S.G. With an RSG Stock. Sling well has 9 D as well as a faint RSG. The carbine is believed to be as issued. Has SG in the the box as well as the ordnance stamp on the right side. 

It’s very hard to tell, but with the right lighting it appears there may be an 8 or a 9 between the definitive 9 and D making it a possible 98 or 99 D 
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Originally posted by Matt_X Matt_X wrote:

Some other sideways X overstamps have shown up on CMP

Found it. http://forums.thecmp.org/showpost.php?p=2074842&postcount=437

Stock stamped with -U- post-war Underwood  rebuild ( Inland carbine)
Original carbine unknown
Type III or type II cut down.
RSG [high, partially sanded]
x [sideways] 9 4 B [low]


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Loose Stock discussed on CMP forum http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=299068
Type II
[R] SG [barely visible, slingwell was refinished]
1 4 F


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Charlie sent me some others he's dug up but has been to busy to post.  The Quality Hardware acceptance stamp on the last one adds another twist!

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Either this is the same stock and carbine already on the list, or we have a second example. 
SG 3262XXX  TYPE II
RSG  [high in slingwell]
A  [sideways]  BOMB [sideways] 8 [at 45]


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SG 5861XXX,
TYPE III stock
RSG [middle]
102   [1 has an oval  O overstamp]  


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 [From EBAY STOCK only listing]
TYPE II Stock
RSG
[Bomb sideways]
7 [upside down] C [sideways]

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Unknown Carbine
UNKNOWN STOCK TYPE
 TRIMBLE [Top]
TN
48-D  [Upside down]
TSG 


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QHMC unknown serial number.
[unknown stock type, possible late Type III]
O  [oval  or sideways] RSG [middle]



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LATE QHMC 4,7-4,8
Stock Type ? with QHMC CC
O [middle]
RSG  [bottom]


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Some other sideways X overstamps have shown up on CMP and milsurps recently.
Do we think that is a 101 A?  with an X over the first 1?
From the photos on gun broker I'm going to go with Low wood (Type III)  unless someone thinks its a cut down. 
RSG located high.
Original serial number unknown.

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IBM GB listing in RSG stock: https://gunbroker.com/item/933091320






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Matt_X -
Here are the additional photos of the nose of the stock you requested.
Any thoughts welcome.
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This is an M1 oval cut, highwood on S.G. 33414xx which I found in original configuration. I won't to attempt to divine what the marks are

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Hi. Yes I will but it will be several days. I am out of town through the holidays. 
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Wick57, Can you post a few more photos of the stock?  Esp the nose?
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It's pretty easy to determine the difference between Irwin made and Overton made stocks, just look a the nose profile or look for any markings in the barrel channel and slide well since they both used different ink stamps formats there (the slide well).
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Interesting observation, Matt.  I went back just now and checked height and width of the "O" against another INLAND stock cartouche with calipers.  Both H and W were identical.  Difference in the photos might be a slight angle shift in camera perspective.
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Originally posted by wick57 wick57 wrote:

Late to the party here.  I have a SG stock ser # 3357xxx.  


I see IO and 4  6  A.  If you look closely, to me, I also almost see an R in a different font struck lightly before the IO.
Thoughts??
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I can see what appears to be an R.  Not sure at all. 
If the stock was made by Robert Irwin, we'd expect the IO to be overstamped on an SG.
If it the stock was made by Overton for Inland, then transfered to Saginaw, why the R?

Comparing with the Overton for Inland stamp on the Stocks webpage, the O looks wider.
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