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floydthecat
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Posted: Jul 11 2019 at 3:51pm |
Anyone ever tightened or replaced hand-guard rivets? Seems to me like a hollow-nose rivet would work, maybe have to dress-off part of the head. I wonder if there is a setting tool that will form the same shape as the original rivets? Any experience out there?
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New2brass
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I put a punch into a vice that was the size of the head of the rivet. I had someone hold the HG and then tapped down the formed side with a transfer punch.
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floydthecat
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That would surely work to tighten rivets up. Never having actually seen the rivets that were used, I’m thinking one would possibly have to modify a locally available hollow-nose rivet. I am just wondering if there is an actual setting-tool out there that would roll the nose in the same fashion as the original rivets? All the setting punches I see form a concave nose.
One more question...were there any USGI hand guards produced that never were attached with rivets? Tab held in place by small nails.
Edited by floydthecat - Jul 12 2019 at 1:36pm |
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old59porsche
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Dan, I can't see you shopping at H.F.
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Retired Army Guy
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floydthecat
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Disposable tools I bet.😁
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New2brass
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Actually I used to have a deal with a local Importer of machine tools from Israel and possibly other places. they had cheap stuff which was still better than the Enco, a inexpensive machine tool supply online, which was much better than Harbor freight. I had done some stuff for them in exchange for what I needed. Beyond that I paid dealer price. They are long gone and I cannot believe the cost of some machine tooling now! I think the 30 year old transfer punch set I have cost 7 bucks back then. They have been used and abused and still function fine. The HF punch set was the first to pop up in a search. You could probably modify them to make limited use punches. Good ones from say MSC will be hardened and will last forever. I would never use anything from HF unless like said, as disposable or experimental. Harbor freight has metal and plastic ammo cans. Observation is that the seals are garbage and I would not use for long term ammo or other storage items where I am concerned about moisture getting in. When they were on sale stupid cheap I bought some plastic ones for like 2 bucks each. I do not know the drop factor but would not trust it. I did however get some for my daughter who puts her art supplies in them. One I may use to "pot" a high voltage power supply USGI would have a specification so all would be very similar semi tubular rivets. A decent hardware store may have them. A correct rivet setting tool would have a anvil the shape of the head. I used a punch as an anvil as I did not care if it flattened the head. The "set" or "flair" tool would be shaped similar to the transfer punch. I know of two profiles for the set punch. One smooth to curl the opened end. The other has a hex pattern to it to split the rivet and fold the hollow parts in segments. I bet there are many others as well. If yo have a Michales or Joann fabrics you may find cheap hand set tools there, though they may be too big for a HG. Online I bet there are hundreds of pictures online. Here is a set at MSC for $376 I have used a transfer punch on solid rivets. The thought being the the punch part would better stretch it for surface area. However this would compromise a rivet if it had a "load" to hold |
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floydthecat
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I had already thought about pilfering thru my bride’s sewing room. She has some of those eyelet thingy tools. She may have something in there that would work, but I am not allowed in there without her....unless I catch her gone.
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shadycon
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They do sell the correct punch for Hollow rivets. I bought one yrs ago but don't remember manuf. Try Hanson Rivet and Tool Co.
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floydthecat
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Looks like they may have what I need. Thanx shady.
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