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shadycon
On Point Joined: Mar 16 2016 Location: NRV, Va. Status: Offline Points: 145 |
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The manuf. is usually stamped on the back side of the stud. You would see it on your pic..
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M1's are FUN!!!
TSMG's are more FUN!!! |
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Paul1262
Grunt Joined: Jun 25 2018 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 151 |
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I have read that some butt stock pouches "pockets" fit the 15 round magazines better than others. Does anyone have a recommended vendor for a USGI or reproduction pouch currently being sold that will fit for sure?
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Donnie
On Point Joined: May 31 2018 Location: Newburgh, IN Status: Offline Points: 336 |
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I bought this repo one from Amazon. USGI and Korean mags fit fine and it fits over the stock, too. Cheap and works. I hope I don't get too many tomatoes thrown at me for suggesting a repo pouche for the range. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PBA4UYQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
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Dnikkor
Recruit Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: Kansas City, KS Status: Offline Points: 31 |
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FWIW, below is the best list I've found for T1 (stock) and T2 (belt) pouches. Unfortunately, I don't remember where I got it.
T1 YEAR MANUFACTURED 1942 Atlas Awning 1942 Boyle 1942 J.Q.M.D. 1942 Mid West Duck & Canvas Co. 1942 Rubon K.C. 1942 R.B. Hanson Mfg. Co 1942 Saco-Moc Shoe Corp. 1943 A.G. Corp. 1943 Airtress Midland 1943 Appleton Awning Shop 1943 Altas Mfg. Co. 1943 Avery 1943 B.B., Inc. 1943 B.B.S. Co. 1943 Biscayne Tent & Awning Co. 1943 Boyd & Gould 1943 Boyt 1943 Charlotte Tent & Awning Co. 1943 Coglizer Tent & Awning Co. 1943 D.M. Shoe Co 1943 Excell 1943 Gates Mfg. Co. 1943 G.B. Co. 1943 G.B. Mfg. Co., Inc. 1943 G. & R. Co. 1943 Gen. S. Corp. 1943 Gen. Shoe. Corp. 1943 Hamlin Canvas Goods Co. 1943 Hav. Stch. Co. 1943 Hepburn Mfg. Co. 1943 Hoff 1943 H St. Co. 1943 J.Q.M.D. 1943 J.S. & S. Co. 1943 Kadin 1943 K.C. 1943 Larid Schrober 1943 Lee 1943 Mid West Duck & Canvas Co. 1943 Morrow & Douglas 1943 Parfait 1943 R.B. Hanson Mfg. Co.. 1943 Rubon K.C. 1943 Saco-Mac Shoe Corp. 1943 S.F. Co., Inc. 1943 S. Froehlich Co. 1943 S. Froehlich Co. Inc 1943 T.F.S. Co. 1943 Thompson's 1943 Updike Awning Co. 1943 Victory 1943 Walter E Allen 1944 Airtess Midland 1944 Arnold Mfg. Co. 1944 Biscayne Tent & Awning Co. Inc. 1944 Boyt 1944 R.B. Hanson Mfg. Co. 1944 H st Co. 1945 Boyt 1946 H st Co. T2 YEAR MANUFACTURED 1943 Avery 1943 Camlin Fashions of America, Inc. 1943 Gamer 1943 George S. Rumley Co. 1943 Hamlin Canvas Goods Co. 1943 Midland Fabrics Co. 1943 Pittsburgh Gater Co. 1943 S. Froelich Co. 1944 Arnold Mfg. Co. 1944 R.B. Hanson Mfg. Co. 1944 A-G Corp. 1944 Avery 1944 Camlin Fashions of America, Inc. 1944 Clery 1944 Foley Mfg. Company 1944 Geib, Inc. 1944 George S. Rumley Co. 1944 H AM L Co. 1944 J.A. Shoe 1944 Kadin 1944 Midland Fabrics Co. 1944 Pittsburgh Gater Co. 1944 Puce Manufacturing Co. 1944 St. Croix G. Co. 1945 Ajay 1945 Aldon 1945 Avery 1945 B.A.B. Co. 1945 Caldwell Products 1945 Cedar Rapids Tent & Awning Co. 1945 DAPCO INC. 1945 Gailee 1945 General Shirt Co. 1945 George S Rumley Co. 1945 Kadin 1945 Parfait 1945 R.B. Hanson Mfg. Co. 1945 Redwine & Strain 1945 Regal Rugs 1951 Correct Shoes, Inc. 1951 Dale Footwear Inc. 1951 J.Q.M.D. 1951 Shoe-Moc Shoe 1951 Arkelian Co. 1952 Bras. W. Breneman Co. 1952 Correct Shoes, Inc. 1952 Gosset Shoes Inc. 1952 Harian Co. 1952 J.Q.M.D. 1952 Santa Fe Electric Laundry Co. 1953 Santa Fe Electric Laundry Co. 1956 Tweedie Footwear Corporation 1957 Ranier Bell Co., Inc. |
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Dnikkor
Recruit Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: Kansas City, KS Status: Offline Points: 31 |
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And also FWIW, here is the list of M1 Carbine pouches I've spent too much money on. This includes the ones I still don't have. Hint Hint
WWII T1 Pouch collection: AG Corp 1943 AIRTRESS MIDLAND 1943, 44 APPLETON AWNING SHOP 1943 ARNOLD MFG CO 1944 ATLAS AWNING 1942 AVERY 1943 B.B. INC 1943 BISCANE TENT & AWNING CO. 1943 Boyd & Gould 1943 Boyle 1942 BOYT -43- CHAROLETT TENT & AWNING CO. 1943 D.M. SHOE CO. 1943 GATES MFG. CO. 1943 G.B. CO. 1943 GEN S. CORP. 1943 G & R C. 1943 Hamlin Canvas Good Co. 1943 R.B. HANSON MFG CO. 1944 HAV.STCH CO. 1943 Hepburn Mfg. Co. 1943 HOFF 1943 H. st. CO. 1943 KADIN 1943 J.S.&S. CO. 1943 J.Q.M.D. 1942 LAIRD SCHOBER 1943 MID-WEST DUCK & CANVAS CO. 1942 PARFAIT 1943 RUBON K.C. 1942, 1943 SACO-MOC SHOE CORP. 1943 S. FROEHLICH CO. 1943 T.F.S. CO.-1943 Thompson's 43 VICTORY 1943 WALTER E. ALLEN 1943 WWII T2 Pouches A-G Corp. 1944 ALDON 1945 ARNOLD MFG. CO. 1944 AVERY 1944, 1945 CALDWELL PRODUCTS CO 1945 CAMLIN FASHIONS OF AMERICA, Inc. 1944 FOLEY MFG. COMPANY 1944 GEIB, Inc. 1944 GAILEE 1945 GENERAL SHIRT CO. 1945 GEORGE S. RUMLEY CO. 1943 & 1945 R.B. HANSON MRG. CO. 1945 HAMELCO 1944 J.A. SHOE 1944 Luce Manufacturing Co. 1944 MIDLAND FABRICS CO. 1944 REDWINE & STRAIN 1945 ST. CROIX G. CO 1944 Korean War T2 Pouches ¬¬ ARAKELIAN CO. 1952 ARNOLD CORRECT SHOE INC. 1952 CHAS. W. BRENEMAN CO. 1952 CORRECT SHOES, INC. 1952 DALE FOOTWEAR INC. 1951 HARIAN CO. 1952 J.Q.M.D. 1951 SACO. MOC. SHOE 1951 SANTA FE ELECTRIC LORY. COM 1952 TWEEDIE FOOTWEAR CORPORATION 1956, 1957 WWII T3 Pouches (TIIIA) BOYT USMC 1944 (TIIIB) BOYT -44- NOM. -43055 (TIIIB) S.F.CO. Inc 1943 No.m 39061 T1 Pouches missing from collection: ___ ATLAS MFG CO. ¬¬¬___ B.B.S. CO. 1943 ___ BICHFORD BROS ___ Boyd & Gould 1943 ___ Coglizer Tent & Awning Co. 1943 ___ Excel 1943 ___ Gen. Shoe. Corp. 1943 ___ K.C. 1943 ___ Lee 1943 ___ Morrow & Douglas 1943 ___M&H CO. 1943 ___ S&F CO. 1943 ___ UPDIKE AWNING CO. 1943 |
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Paul1262
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Dnikkor - Thank you very much. This is a terrific list of T1 and T2 pouch manufacturers.
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Paul1262
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Danikor - You have a very impressive collection of magazine "pockets" - pouches. I wish you the best of luck in completing your collection. Again, thanks for compiling these most helpful lists.
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Dnikkor
Recruit Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: Kansas City, KS Status: Offline Points: 31 |
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Thanks Paul. I started collecting magazines in between CMP carbines, especially after they disappeared. And then started on the mag pouches when I started running out of different magazines to add to my collection. I'm still a little mad at myself for selling off an Updike Awning Co. pouch before I started to seriously collect them. Now I can't find one.
Does anybody know of a T1 magazine pouch that isn't on my list? |
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Paul1262
Grunt Joined: Jun 25 2018 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 151 |
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Dnikor, There was a 1943 Updike Awning Co pouch for sale on the 44th Collectors Avenue web site. No price shown.
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Dnikkor
Recruit Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: Kansas City, KS Status: Offline Points: 31 |
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I couldn't find the pouch, but if their prices I see are any indication, I don't think I need that particular pouch that bad. Thanks though Paul.
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sling00
Hard Corps Joined: Apr 21 2016 Location: Tennessee Status: Offline Points: 941 |
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I didn't see KINGSLEY FASHIONS INC 1943.
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Dnikkor
Recruit Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: Kansas City, KS Status: Offline Points: 31 |
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I never heard of that one. It's on my list now.
Just what I need...another rare one to add to my list of other rare ones I'm missing. Thanks! |
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sling00
Hard Corps Joined: Apr 21 2016 Location: Tennessee Status: Offline Points: 941 |
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FYI, here's the lists from the site I referenced in the other post. I made a couple comments regarding possible errors. Also it looks like they only covered WWII vintage. Some type I manufacturers identified Dated AG CORP 1943 AIRTRESS MIDLAND 1943-1944 ALDON 1943 APPLETON AWNING SHOP 1943 ATLAS AWNING 1942 ATLAS Mfg Co 1943 AVERY 1943 BB Inc 1943 BBS Co 1943 BISCAYNE TENT & AWNING Co 1943 BOYD & GOULD 1943 BOYT 1942 CHARLOTTE TENT & AWNING Co 1943 COGLIZER TENT & AWNING Co 1943 DM SHOE Co 1943 EXCEL 1943 G & P Co 1943 (Perhaps a poorly printed R, not P?) G & R Co 1943 GAILEE 1943 GAMLIN FASHIONS OF AMERICA Inc 1942 (Perhaps CAMLIN ?) GATES Mfg Co 1942 GB Mfg Co 1943 GEN S. CORP 1943 GEORGE S. RUMLEY Co 1943 HAMLIN CANVAS GOODS 1943 HAV. STCH. Co 1943 HEPBURN Mfg Co 1943 HOFF 1943 JS & S. Co 1943 JQMD 1942-1943 KADIN 1943 KINGSLEY FASHIONS Inc 1943 LAIRD SCHOBER 1943 LEE 1943 LUCE MANUFACTURING Co 1943 MID-WEST DUCK & CANVAS Co 1942-1943 MORROW & DOUGLAS 1943 PERFECT 1942-1943 RB HANSON Mfg. Co 1942-1943 RUBON KC 1942-1943 SACO-MOC SHOE CORP 1942-1943 SF Co. Inc 1943 S. FROEHLICH Co 1943 TFS Co 1943 THOMPSON'S 1943 UNITED DEFENSE 1943 UPDIKE AWNING Co 1943 VICTORY 1943 WALTER E. ALLEN 1943 Some Type II manufacturers identified Dated AG CORP 1943-1944 AJAY 1945 ALDON 1945 ARNOLD Mfg. Co 1944 AVERY 1943-1944-1945 BAB Co 1944 CALDWELL PRODUCTS Co 1945 CEDAR RAPIDS TENT & AWNING Co 1945 FOLEY Mfg. Co 1944-1945 GAILEE 1945 GAMLIN FASHIONS OF AMERICA Inc 1944-1945 (Perhaps CAMLIN ?) GEIB Co 1944 GENERAL SHIRT Co 1945 GEORGE S. RUMLEY Co 1944-1945 HAMEL Co 1944-1945 JA SHOE 1943-1944 KADIN 1944 KANAK Co 1943 LUCE Mfg. Co 1944 MIDLAND FABRICS Co 1943 PITTSBURGH GARTER Co 1944 RB HANSON Mfg. Co 1945 ST. GARMENT CROSS 1944 REDWINE & STRAIN 1945 REGAL RUGS 1945 RUBON KC 1944 |
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Matt_X
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Notice something unusual here? I found a couple of people on the USmilitaria forum who have seen the same. Two 1944 Avery examples in first post. Whether the binding is Nylon, Rayon, or another more
plentiful wartime sythetic fiber I can't say. It's fairly stiff which
raises some doubt about it being one of the softer synthetics. Also with nylon was being diverted for specific military needs, its hard to fathom why it would be used for cloth tape when cotton canvas was serving well. Could be as manufactured, but I'd also believe later repair. Funny thing is none of the examples show wear. :) |
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john843
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There is a guy, username mrrm, who is selling NOS WWII ('43 & '44) Boyt and I think Hansen stock pockets on the CMP for sale and trade listings (M-1 Carbine section). Had quite a few a couple days ago.
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sling00
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Refer to CCNL 261 page 5. It list a 1944 Avery with nylon piping.
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HammerGrunt
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I have several 1942 made pockets and I think they are a great part of the "All Hands On Deck" effort of American Companies to support the War effort.
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HammerGrunt
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Edited by New2brass - Nov 25 2022 at 9:14am |
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Semper Fidelis!
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sling00
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Unfortunately I've seen at least one reproduction with the snap offset. The good thing is they did list it as a reproduction. Also look at the main snap. Shouldn't be just a flat plate on the back side.
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Dnikkor
Recruit Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: Kansas City, KS Status: Offline Points: 31 |
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The pouches (and other accoutrements) marked JTL are all reproductions.
I once paid more than $71 for a Type 4 "banana mag" pouch. It did include two near-mint SEY 30-rounders however. I just bought a 1944 and a 1945 Avery both with the nylon piping as part of a deal to get a Parfait 1945 T2 pouch that I did not have in my collection. I'm up to 26 unique WWII T2 pouches and 39 T1 "stock" pouches, not counting duplicates. It is getting really hard to find any of the few I am missing. |
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