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M1Seeker
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Posted: Jul 10 2018 at 10:13pm |
Really like CCNL #374 with the IP info. Learned things that I couldn't find on the net. Such as there is a Navy Vet bring back IP with 1.76 with an oval cut stock. And that the 5 digit ink stamp was blue maybe turned greenish with age? Was common for IP/SG stocks.
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M1Seeker
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Close to drawing but has 2 separate squiggly legs. Does not appear to be a double stamp.
Yes flame bomb in white, check my photo with grease print.
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m1a1fan
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Looks like Hitchcock or an alien.
Based on the OP's S/N this might be the earliest mark used? New2 has hit on something I've never noticed. I haven't seen many, but so far all ordinance bombs stamped on the flat appear to be in the white. Can the OP confirm. Other members please check and report. |
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New2brass
Moderator Group Dan Pinto, Photo Editor Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CT Status: Offline Points: 4664 |
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Here is what I am seeing between the two angles.
It is possible that it was two stamps that are on top of each other. It is possible that it was reported, but early on we relied on descriptions. How would this be described? Circle and arrow is (or was) the symbol for male. It may be a partial mark. the rest??????
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The M1 books and bulletins don't show this mark?
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m1a1fan
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That is a different mark for sure. The top section does look simliar to the "pine tree" mark shown on other IP receivers. Perhaps that was one of the first marks used? Dunno.
Great, clear pictures BTW. |
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M1Seeker
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Any ideas on stamp mark?
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HAppy 4th July to all!!!!
Also Happy to have America at our border.
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Better pic, circle with arrow at top and 2 squiggly lines below, thought this was fat man? My old Canon can't focus in any closer. Very well could be a bring back, the darn Enfield was too large, so maybe a few of these came back. Later donated by the widow? When I get time I will contact the museum and try and get details.
The history on how these WW2 carbines made it to Canada I don't have any idea. The ones I have seen for sale [6] in last 2 months have no import marks at all.
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I do not think it the same as the fat man. Very interesting indeed! what I see looks like a circle with an arrow pointed up as the picture is orientated. I cannot make out what is below the circle, May be a second stamp.
Flipping through newsletters I found some interesting stuff. It seems that some early Inlands went to Canada possibly through the Lend Lease. It was asked if any proof marks were on Canadian owned carbines. What I did find was not proofs but Canada Property marks. Basically a broad head arrow in a C. The marks were observed on the stock near CC and the hand guard as well as the left side of the front ring. For those interested see CCNL 55, 381 For info on loaned, sold or traded carbines to Allied nations see CCNLs 61-1, 349-12, 358-21 So now this OPs IP may not have these marks, which means it may not have been Canadian property. So it may well have been a bring home. Very Interesting Indeed!
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M1Seeker
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IT looks like the fat man stamp shown by Dan.
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m1a1fan
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The OP's receiver has a marking that doesn't look like one of the three marks (fat man, pine tree or house). Perhaps this is a new marking of one with which I am not familiar? Would like to see a close up picture of it.
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M1Seeker
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You must have seen my big fat grease print under the barrel! Sure sure I'll clean it up.
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Yes They Will...... Here is a Inland brought to me for service that shows rust started where it had been handled and not wiped clean before storing. Other pictures I have of this one clearly show the Palm print. Keeping it wet with Hoppes #9 and light brushing with the Milled Grain Direction cleaned it up, see below:
After Cleaning: Learned at about age 5, Wipe all metal before 'Properly Storing' Happy 4th to all, Charlie-Painter777 |
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Living Free because of those that serve.....
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m1a1fan
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Have seen carbines with rust in exposed areas while on the inside they are pristine or close to it. Wondering if exposed areas touched by the user and not cleaned can also rust over time. Areas like the front of the trigger, rear section of the exposed barrel, slide handle, barrel band and butt plate.
Anyone know why two marks on rear of receiver? Proofed once by IP and then proofed again by S'G? |
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Interesting, house, fat man, p tree all some kind of IP code?
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m1a1fan
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"House"
"'Pine Tree" |
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M1Seeker
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More pics sling well include flame bomb
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I see, is there a page on IP here?
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painter777
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Just a old link from another forum, that happened to have good info about IP's with pictures.
Add: Slings can hold moisture, causing rust on swivels and oilers. Buttplates can pull moisture from being stood on wet surface.
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