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Carl Bine
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My forthcoming late IBM seems to be all-original and the right side of the rear sight is FO B. #3950667. Staked the same way. Will post pictures next week.
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Smokpole
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I find the sight marking interesting. I've seen 4 other IBM carbines with relatively close serial numbers that I believe were all original and all of them had the GE-Q flip sights. While there is no documentation, it seems obvious that a significant number of those sights were used in a fairly narrow serial number range that this carbine falls into.
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Carl Bine
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Just put money down on a local 395XXXX late IBM in all original condition. Almost with all the same marked parts as the above. Incredible almost new shape (with correct patina) and very tight. Excited! Your photos (in addition to the books) helped. Thanks.
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m1a1fan
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Found a few more pics of IBM staking for reference...a 3.72 and 3.70
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Dave Tennent
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My 3791003 is also staked with one punch although I don't have a photo of it.
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m1a1fan
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I once read a random post that no original carbines had stake marks on the gas piston nut, but no pictures were offered. What's strange to me is those three areas are described here specifically for staking.
http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/barrels.html Why put them there if the nut wasn't supposed to be staked? What tool was used? Was it chisel like instrument, some type of punch or both? All of the original IBM's I've seen have the same type punch stake mark like Dave's and the OP's. Note to collectors. If you have an original carbine inspected, sometimes part of that process is to check the nut to see if it is loose. If it is, politely ask to have it tightened and not staked again. |
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Dave Tennent
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My original IBM has an identical single punch mark on the gas piston.
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Ghostman
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the single punch mark on the gas piston outer frame, looks like it was done by an field armorer or other owner through out the years, replacing the piston and/or nut. Note the 3 rectangular marks on each flat of the nut, those were the original staking marks.
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Michael
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Johnboy490
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I just traded for a IBM serial number 377xxxx that has. Barrel date of 11-43 ibm barrel with the flaming bomb, I don’t know how. To post pics of it, thanks in advance.
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Doug Bathurst
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Great information and pics! Thanks for posting. I need to do the same with a couple of mine
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m1a1fan
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Have seen them up to 10-43. So far, of the dated barrels, 10-43 seems to be the most "common". Another 10-43 just sold recently. Have yet to see an 11 or 12 of 43. Someday, hopefully. A 12-43 AO IBM, that would be a find.
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ibm1jh
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I think IBM only dated their barrels from July to December, 1943. The earliest dated barrel I have seen in 7-43, and the latest 12-43. I have seen several 9-43s and 10-43s. By January, 1944, they stopped dating them (unless someone has a later example). And then they stopped production altogether in Spring of 1944. I have always been partial to a dated barrel, though.
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m1a1fan
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Haven't run into all that many IBM's with dated barrels. Not sure why but haven't seen many original IBM's with barrels after 10-43.
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kar6666
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A friend of mine had one very much like that one. It has probably been 15 or more years since I last saw it. But what really impressed me was the contrast in the color of the parts and I see this shows the same contrast. It was a really a nice looking carbine. He had all ten manufactures plus a few extras but the late I.B.M. was the best looking carbine he had to me. The thing that bugged me the most was his had a adjustable rear sight and he replaced it with a flip sight. It was his only carbine that didn't have a flip sight and he thought it would look better if they all had flip sights. As hard as I tried I couldn't talk him out of it.
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New2brass
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Ah! so now we see why the forum can be better than paper! Plus you can download and print a copy. A win-win
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m1a1fan
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Hopefully there are more fine examples of IBM's to come. Any maker would do but I am particularly fond of IBM's.
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ibm1jh
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REALLY cool example of a late IBM carbine. Outstanding pictures and notes. This is way better than the paper CCNLs. Thanks!
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John H
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pvc4440
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Makes me want to work on my 10-43 IBM
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Impala12
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Nice carbine
I have an S'G'. Stock is not original, but the rest is. |
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patrickduis
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Very nice find. Way more original than my I.B.M. .30m1
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