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    Posted: Oct 12 2017 at 11:13am
Saw this early QHMC in a local ad so I went to see it and ended up buying it. It appears to be pretty original and is interesting in that it has a type 1 NPM trigger housing. There is documentation in War Baby that NPM sent trigger housings to QHMC during the time this Carbine was assembled. The hand guard which matches in color is marked IO. I can't find any documented lateral support of hand guards from Inland so I think this may be a replaced part. An other interesting feature is the staking of the rear sight. At first glance it looks like it had been staked for an adjustable sight but if you look closely there are no chisel marks and one of the punch marks is so close to the flip sight that it marked both the dove tail and the flip sight. In the QHMC update in the CCNL #334 they mention QHMC using this type of rear sight staking on early receivers. I think this might be an example of that. The barrel band has been repaired but the front sight does not look like it has ever been removed. Hope you enjoy the pictures and any comments are always welcomed.
https://imgur.com/a/gJ6ZL
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That's a beauty. Type 2 receiver?
 
Need better pics of stake marks
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Thanks for your response. I'll get some better pictures of the stake marks and check if type 2 receiver later today.
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That's a nice one. Congrats on the find! Looks like COM/FC material.
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Additional pictures of the rear sight stake marks and receiver
https://imgur.com/a/Am99Y
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Nice carbine! Nice find!
Is that a small "W" on the top of the recoil plate between the 9 and 10 o'clock position?
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Just checked my 1.57 with R-O 3-43 barrel
Similar stake marks but only rt side front and rear.
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Mine is also only staked right side front and rear
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Originally posted by Ghostman Ghostman wrote:


Nice carbine! Nice find!
Is that a small "W" on the top of the recoil plate between the 9 and 10 o'clock position?

Ghostman I think those are machining marks
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Hello Ken,
Nice find! My two earliest Qualities -- 1.550 and 1.565 both have Rock-Ola 1-43 barrels.
1.550 has a GE-Q with no stake marks, chisel or punch. 1.565 has a GE-Q with punch marks just like yours and as described in the NL.
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Bill, any pics?
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Dan -- they're in the back row of the safe. Once I have them out and the camera charged, I'll take some out of focus pics ;-) and post. They are as described.
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I also have a 1631XXX 8-43 Underwood barrel with the same stake marks
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I have a 1.57 with a Rock-Ola 11-42 barrel that didn't have noticeable stake marks. It was for that reason that I put a genuine flip sight on it.

I'll have to dig it out and look at it again one of these days.
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note the type 2 springtube notch on the stock--nice one-rare to find in that condition
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Also, notice the front ring comma (,) after the 30 and before the M1
This tiny detail was present on all early QHMC carbines and went away somewhere between serial number 1621877 and 1626569. Nice find.

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Here is my 1.559 with 3-43 R-O barrel, GE-Q sight.

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Staking on my 1631XX
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rcycles45 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 17 2017 at 6:42pm
Nice Score Ken ! Really like seeing early carbines like this . Looks like it still has all the parts it was born with .. Good luck with it ..
I have 155010x , has 11-42 Barrel and type 1 variation A receiver .
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Very nice find, congrats!
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