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CMP M1 Carbine in cosmoline

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    Posted: Oct 17 2020 at 12:10pm
How many early 2000's CMP carbines came packed in cosmoline? This was hand picked from the Camp Perry store years ago. Thank you.

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mine came packed in cosmoline. it was a little later i think that the cmp bought a machine that washed them all clean.   if i remember correctly?
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Thank you for your reply shumba....

Did the CMP receive these in cosmoline from the Army? I assume the Army packed them for long term storage and simply handed them over to the CMP. ???
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I've seen one, an M1A1 owned by a member that is packed in cosmoline and some kind of fiberglass material. Not sure if it is from the CMP or not, but it's way beyond preserved into the rhealm of embalmed or encased.

Don't know much about CMP rifles with cosmo, but the OP's looks pretty cool (and well preserved), none- the-less.
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the cmp carbines came from italy if i remember correctly.  so the cosmoline is most likely italian cosmoline.   i don't remember if the greeks sent any carbines or not.
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don't depend on 70 year old cosmoline to protect from rust.  remove it and replace with new cosmoline.  and sometimes the cosmoline was slathered over old rust anyway.
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Just some side notes about removing Cosmoline,
I've heard of a few methods at removing it.. to include in a black trash bag in the hot sun.
I've used mineral spirits / regular paint thinner in a capped PVC pipe that I could shake around with good luck. Made the tube just long enough to fit a carbine barreled receiver. But needed to oil right away after the final finish cleaning.

A older Korean War vet told me about using a heat gun or blow torch with the wood removed.

My Father said they unpacked crated Carbines slathered with it in the Philippines. They'd hang them up where the sun could warm them up then pull the stocks and dunked the actions in barrels of either Diesel fuel or Kerosene. Said he'd of tried Gasoline but it was too hard to come by. Some would hang the actions near a camp fire to melt off what they could, sorta like a pre-cleaning. They got in trouble burning the crates because of the black smoke and complaints about the smell. He often complained about how much work it was and would have loved to have got his hands on the guys who packed them.  Heard those stories often when setting around looking at his War Gun hanging on the wall. Those childhood stories you don't forget.

Back when the CMP was releasing some like this I read about a guy using vegetable oil in a turkey fryer in the backyard. I remember because I asked how his next turkey tasted Big smile

Another used his kerosene salamander space heater.
 
Anyone heard of other methods or options ?

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I've had a few different milsurps come slathered in cosmoline. I find the cleanup process quite enjoyable! I start by using rags to wipe off whatever I can, and I have a plastic tool with a wedge scraper on one end and a point on the other that works good for removing hardened stuff and getting into tight spots without scratching. I mostly use Hoppes #9 on patches to dissolve anything really dried on.
Few weeks ago I picked up a late Inland handstamp that I'm sure was a CMP Italian return, never cleaned from storage. Couldn't even move the flip safety or mag catch the cosmoline was so dried on. Took a couple of evenings work to get her in shape.
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i used a mechanics parts washer tub with solvent and a brush.  i haven't used it but i have heard of an industrial detergent called simple green works real good also.   plain old dawn and hot water work good also.
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Used spray carburetor cleaner on some of mine that were really gunked up from the CMP, worked great, oiling afterwards is a must.
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I just take the metal out of the stock and set it to soak in a shallow tub of Kero. Takes a little longer but it works well and you don't need to oil it afterwards.
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I've soaked some cosmoline caked magazines in gas, brushes right off with a toothbrush after a good soak.
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In 2007 the Italian Returns were at the CMP for sorting. Several Club members went to help with the arduous task of sorting and checking.
Here are pictures and details from Ron Dalhamer 



 They came from Italy zip-tied in bundles of five. Stacked like cord-wood on pallets. I can’t remember how many carbines per pallet.  They had to be one at a time checked for serial number, damage and for M2’s for then inventoried into numbered boxes for storage. When they were on pallets they couldn’t be stacked without damage. In the numbered boxes they get stacked to the roof.



CMP 2007 Italian carbines  shipped bolt-less slathered in grease, bolts sent separately. Bayonets were delayed slightly (HA! HA!)


  Pull them out of the stock, wipe off as much of the goop as you can, disassemble and wipe off more goop, push 18 inches of goop from bore with cleaning rod, clean trigger group and check for full function,  select correct bolt and check headspace, assemble then CMP staff takes over for safety check and test fire.

 



Seems to me at this point in sorting there were a decent amount of IP bolts!


And check out the tiger stripe on this potbelly


Notice the serial numbers stamped on some of the stocks. The Israeli also did this seen forward of the slingwell and linear to stock. I do not know if the Israelis stamped this way as well.

I think the serial gives the carbine a bit of "I was there" provenance!

Thanks to Ron for sharing!



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And you wonder where those op slide handle dents came from on the left side of your stock.

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