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RWS-67 
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 Posted: Aug 06 2021 at 9:18am |
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SAGINAW RECEIVER QUESTIONS: #1 3470733 2 SAGINAW S.G. 3 CAL. 30 M1. 4 WIDE TANG- ROUND SLIDE CUT 5 NO EAR RECEIVER 6 SMALL SG 1/8 LEFT REC. 7 BOTTOM TRIG. HSG. LUG MARKED A 8 BARREL SAGINAW S.G. DIV. (NO DATE)
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inlandm1
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Posted: Aug 28 2021 at 1:38am |
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I bought this carbine recently from Gunbroker. Here is the info you want: Question 1: Serial number - 34719xx Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - U.S.CARBINE CAL.30MI. (appears as shown, no spaces) Question 4: Rear tang - wide Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - no ear Question 6: Front and middle left detail - front left: SG (2/16ths), no other marks on left side Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - serif A stamped on trigger housing lug Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - UNDERWOOD 7-43 with badly stamped flaming bomb below and 5/32 P below that but visible with type III barrel band, short skirt. The middle of the word UNDERWOOD is barely visible but the date stamp is sharp. The turning marks on the barrel are still visible. Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - round Not much finish left on this old soldier. It has a Winchester stock with an RA rebuild mark that probably predates the .U. rebuild mark on the left side. Has a san serif P (3/8in) on the front of the grip, and a very small 1 stamped on the bottom of the grip. It also probably got the pits in its barrel from storage with the Israeli military as it has the serial number stamped into the left side of the stock under the comb. Also courtesy of one of the rebuilds, has an Inland trigger housing with mixed parts. Hope this helps. |
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inlandm1
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Posted: Aug 28 2021 at 7:33pm |
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Here is the information from my second Saginaw SG carbine. Question 1: Serial number - 32954xx Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - U.S.CARBINE (there is a space after CAL.) CAL. 30M1 Question 4: Rear tang - wide Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - no ear Question 6: Front and middle left detail - nothing on left side of rcvr. Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - nothing on bottom Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - SAGINAW S.G. DIV 1/8in P - 6 inches from muzzle GENERAL MOTORS no date Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - round This one has Arlington Ordnance import mark under barrel. It is in an m2 stock with no markings and white paint pen numbers on both sides of the stock. Don't know where it came from. It does still retain a SG trigger housing. I hope this furthers your research efforts.
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carlvik
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Posted: Oct 23 2021 at 8:01pm |
 Here is my M1 Saginaw Carbine information!Question 1: Serial Number - 3554194 Question 2: Initials above serial number - S' G' Question 3: Front ring details - U.S. CARBINE CAL. .30 Ml Question 4: Rear Tang - Narrow Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - Squared Ear Note; Area under the rear sight is a Hardness Punch Mark Question 6: Front and middle left detail - No Markings on the front R stamped near middle Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - No marks found Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - SAGINAW S' G' D V GENERAL MOTORS No Date found P stamped 7-1/8"s top from the muzzle Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Square Additional request of Saginaw numbers in slingwell: There are no markings at all anywhere on the stock nor hand-guard. I am sure the woodwork is after market.
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carlvik
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Posted: Oct 23 2021 at 8:40pm |
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Question 2: Initials above serial number - I posted S' G'
On my receiver above the serial number is stamped the following SAGINAW S' G' 3554194 I hope this clears up the 2nd question.
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stjohnmc
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Posted: Dec 07 2021 at 5:28am |
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Question 1: Serial number - 3576699
Question 2: Initials above serial number - S'G'
Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - period after CAL and another preceding 30, Ml font is Sans Serif
Question 4: Rear tang - Narrow
Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - squared ear
Question 6: Front and middle left detail – None detected
Question 7: Receiver bottom detail – None Detected
Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date – Buffalo Arms, 7-1943
Question 9: Rear slide cut detail – Squared |
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PingCMP
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Posted: Dec 23 2021 at 5:59pm |
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Here's the requested data from my S.G., the first original carbine I owned.
It was in the same family for 70 years, brought back from WWII by the seller's late father-in-law & used
for hunting by the late mother-in-law, then his late wife. I believe it
to be 100% original, and it has a highwood, oval cut Trimble to S.G. subcontract stock. 1. 33410xx 2. SG3. CAL. .30 Ml 4. Wide 5. No ear 6. 1/8'' 7. No marks present 8. SAGINAW SG DIV. GENERAL MOTORS 9. Round  |
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35 Whelen
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Posted: Dec 30 2021 at 8:00pm |
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Question 1: Serial number - 1827397
Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - CAL. .30 MI Question 4: Rear tang - Narrow Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - Round Question 6: Front and middle left detail - ᒋ Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - None Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - BA No date Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Square
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35 Whelen
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Posted: Dec 30 2021 at 8:05pm |
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Question 1: Serial number - 3632622
Question 2: Initials above serial number - S'G' Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - CAL. 30 MI. Question 4: Rear tang - Wide Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - No ear Question 6: Front and middle left detail - None Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - T Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - Inland 11-43 Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Round
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New2brass
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Posted: Dec 30 2021 at 8:24pm |
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35 Whelen, please check what you posted, it seems you may have mixed up some information on the two you posted.
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35 Whelen
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Posted: Dec 30 2021 at 8:29pm |
Well, I suppose it's possible, but I disassembled my two Saginaw carbines one at a time and recorded the information from each. Can you elaborate, please?
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35 Whelen
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Posted: Dec 30 2021 at 8:51pm |
Does this help?   |
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Posted: Jan 01 2022 at 1:14pm |
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Your 1.82 is a grand Rapids made receiver. <aybe take a better look from the side to see if the primes are present Saginaw facility sent receivers to the Grand Rapids facility in late 43 Yours is one of those Saginaw facility made receivers. The front ring when reported was with a serif 1. Can you check and also is the 3 in 30 rounded or flat top. Post a pic if possible.
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35 Whelen
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Posted: Jan 01 2022 at 4:18pm |
Yeah, I saw the serial number range you were looking for, after the fact. My apologies, feel free to delete the post with the 1.82 example, or make it so I can delete it and keep your thread as clean as possible. I assume you're wanting more info from the 3.63 Saginaw. Here are a couple of photos. If you can make my original post editable, I can move these photos there so as not to clutter your thread.   Please let me know if you need more specific info. As to "primes", I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but there are no more marks on the receiver other than what I've posted. |
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Posted: Jan 01 2022 at 5:04pm |
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Prime more correctly should be an apostrophe S'G'.
If there are none then this is of interest as a possible roll die error. will condense post when I can and followup if any other info is needed.
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Jackson
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Posted: Feb 23 2022 at 3:56pm |
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I just looked at the data sheet and am amazed at the details that are listed.
I had NO idea what amount od work and research has been done on the Carbines. Now I’m sorry I didn’t buy one years ago so I could have participated in all that has been done Now I can’t wait to get my arbine from my FFL as soon as it arrives so I can start filling out a data sheet on my Carbine. How can I determine if a data sheet may already exist for my serial number?
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Posted: Aug 05 2022 at 5:39pm |
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Question 1: Serial number - 3333436
Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - San Serif MI Question 4: Rear tang - Wide Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - No Ear Question 6: Front and middle left detail - SG Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - K Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - SG Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Round |
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Oldboy53
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Posted: Oct 21 2022 at 8:22pm |
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Late to the game.
1. Serial Number- 3514745 2. Initials- S.G. 3. Front Ring- CAL. 30 M1. 4. Rear Tang- Wide 5. Rear Left Detail- No ear, 1/4" 6. Front/Mid Left- None 7. Rec. Bottom- M on lug 8. Barrel Man/Date- Underwood 6-44 9. Rear Slide Cut- Round |
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Anthony
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Posted: Feb 06 2023 at 2:22pm |
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1: Serial number - 3514899 Question 2: S. G. Question 3: U.S.
Carbine Cal. 30 M1 Question 4: Wide Question 5: Rear left
receiver detail - No tooling hole Question 6: No Letters Question 7: T |
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Charles P
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Posted: Feb 24 2023 at 8:35pm |
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Question 1: Serial number - 3644610 Question 2: Initials above serial number - S'G' Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - U.S. Carbine Cal. 30M1(serif) Question 4: Rear tang - wide Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - no ear Question 6: Front and middle left detail - none Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - S Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - Saginaw S.G. Div. General Motors no date Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - round
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