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Blackford Oakes
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Posted: Dec 11 2016 at 9:40pm |
Just wanted to post this photo album link to my recent acquisition. I am a carbine amateur looking to gain knowledge, so opinions are welcome. Note, that I have not taken the bolt down (I may try the .30 carbine casing trick soon), nor did I remove the safety or magazine catch/release.
This isn’t a special rifle by any means, but the first thing that jumped out at me was how uniform the patina on the metal is. That tells me that it hasn’t been messed with for ages. Also, you can’t see it in the pictures, but it does have a faint, boxed O.G.E.K. arsenal rework mark, so this carbine was ok’ed by THE Elmer Keith! Oh, has anyone ever seen an almost-cursive rework “P" on the grip like this? What about the maker’s marks on the both side of the safety? Maybe someone can shed some light on that. Here is the link to the album. Click the first photo, then use the left and right arrows to scroll through. Thanks, B.O.
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Blackford Oakes
Recruit Joined: Dec 03 2016 Location: NE Georgia Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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Oh, I forgot to mention that the sling and oiler slots were plugged when I acquired the rifle (see my thread in the Parts Markings forum). I unplugged it and a Q-RMC was revealed! Working at the advice of some members here to make the screw hole at the bottom of the “R" disappear.
Thx
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New2brass
Moderator Group Dan Pinto, Photo Editor Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CT Status: Offline Points: 4664 |
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Sweet deal, A late Underwood.
has some nice parts on it too. your carbine has been through a rebuild so all parts are mixed. If you really need to know what is in the bolt and want to take apart then do it inside a plastic bag so you do not lose parts. With a background as a mechanic and a machinist I would consider myself quite adept at taking tricky things apart and putting together. The case trick will get it apart but putting it together can be an exercise in futility. If I may put it another way, I would not recommend trying it without a proper tool.
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gene of oregon
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Nice looking Underwood mixer. I like the pictures. wish everyone would use Google for posting pictures.
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floydthecat
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I wouldn't frustrate myself with trying to beat-the-system and disassemble the bolt via a YouTube video and a couple of screwdrivers. Too much danger in skinning-up an important part. The tool can be had for much less than the normal asking price of over $40 and if you ever disassemble a bolt with it...you'll be glad you have it.
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Blackford Oakes
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Thanks for the advice regarding the bolt, guys. Maybe I'll poke some on eBay or the CMP forums fit a bolt tool.
Any opinions on who made the safety or butt plate. I've seen the photos of all the manufactures' butt plates and can't decipher which one it is. |
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floydthecat
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PM on the way.
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New2brass
Moderator Group Dan Pinto, Photo Editor Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CT Status: Offline Points: 4664 |
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http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/buttplates.html
Only two companies used the diagonal pattern. Don't look at center. Look at line of nibs in a row above the center. See if you can figure it out. The double stamped safety is not uncommon. I believe it was made by WM Steinen and transfered to Eaton Pond. It was a replacement safety |
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Blackford Oakes
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Thanks for the information on the safeties, New2brass. My best guess is Underwood on the butt plate given the broad, flat circle around the screw hole. I tried my best to decipher between the Inland and Underwood pattern in the nubs about the screw hole, but couldn't. |
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New2brass
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If you count a full diagonal line just above the center boss you will see that Underwood has approximately 20 nibs Inland has about 16 nibs. Your plate has approximately 20 nibs.
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ewallover
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Great looking rifle! There's a lot to be said for a mix-master! You can shoot it with abandon! Enjoy...
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Charles
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Like your post. Well done. You have a piece of history, take pride in it and enjoy.
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Charles
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ewallover
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Will do! Merry Christmas!
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