Have been online searching for ammo and have contacted 4 vendors advertising Korea surplus ammo, 1,010 rounds in stripper clips all in a milsurp green ammo box.  I am very suspicious.  First of all, one of them will not allow phone contact.  2 others I phone contacted spoke in very heavy middle eastern and heavy far eastern (Serbia area) accents.  What they are saying doesn't make any sense.  Two I contacted by phone are sending me strange TEXTS in the middle of the night.  All 4 vendors deny payment by PayPal or credit card.   All demand payment in BitCoin or other cryptocurrency which would be impossible to recover if sale goes wrong.

Anyone heard anything on this?  Sounds very shady to me.

sls

True, but the founding fathers didn't write the 2nd Amendment because the deer were coming.

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For what it's worth RTI is selling surplus ammo, they are saying it is US surplus, but it is actually made in the Netherlands possibly for Germany, it has a NWM lot# and headstamp. I have no experience with NWM ammo so no idea how it shoots. Price does not appear too bad but I think they charge high shipping cost.

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Wayne,

Thanks for the tips.  I'm a re-loader so bought 250 rounds of Bellot & Sellier (Czeck Republic) ammo at a dollar a round.  Will reload the spent brass for ~17 cents/round.

With that I can plink my heart out.

Thanks again.

sls

True, but the founding fathers did not write the 2nd Amendment because the deer were coming.

Several of us here share your enthusiasm. 

I agree. That all sounds super shady.

I've dealt with some borderline shady companies during the pandemic, but all had normal payment systems and contact.   S&B should be fine.  If you happen to chronograph it, a number of us would be interested in the results. 

Just looked a Ammoseek and see .30 carbine prices have crept back up in the last few weeks.

I bought Magtech FMJ 4 weeks ago at .54 /rnd before shipping and taxes about .68 with, and that was not the cheapest ammo at that time. 

Even on ammoseek, I pick and choose amongst the venders.

There are also a couple of decent venders that don't participate in that search engine.

I do have a Chronograph (chrony)  Will certainly keep y'all informed.

My shots are pretty lousy at first targets w/ the carbine.  Shoots way different than my Garand.

I'm nowhere's knowledgable enough to be advising on this.

I'd love to get further on what the original 1942-45 factory and government testing groups were. 

Military known distance targets for carbine qualification were on 'A'  targets.   Those had a 10" bullseye and were shot at 100 yards.  Will start a thread here on this at some point.

To get some idea of what others have been getting out of their carbines, skim through this section.   One that I started, a few jumped in with their results as well, and incudes discussions about various factors effecting accuracy.

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I'll say I'm still working my technique.  The other day I was experimenting with moving the butt further in on my shoulder than I use with say a musket.  Haven't tried at the range yet.  Just seeing if helped with head position etc.

Normally I'm using SR-1 targets at 100 yards.  So that's become my basis for comparisons.

The other day I went to the indoor range which is only 25 yards.  Instead of scaling down a SR-1, I just used some scaled down 10" bullseye 'A' targets I already had made.  It has a 2.5" bullseye. 

 

I read much of the thread referenced above by Matt.

Barrel hang?  Is there an optimal hang?  (my type III barrel band is tightened down as far as it could be done)

Recoil plate adjustment?  What?

Could something like the above cause my carbine to be shooting way high?

Thoughts please.

Thanks

Breezed thru the CMP thread.  Very informative.  A must read for any and all M1 carbiners.

Thanks, Bonnie

When I shoot different positions and see different results I know that's not the gun, but me.

I'm still at point where most the variation is me, not the carbines or ammo. Wish I had a coach watching me.

One thing I noticed is that my eye plays games with the rear peep sight.  Nowadays I have to keep the post in the middle of the top half circle of the rear, because the hole doesn't really look round anymore. 

I assume you're shooting 6'oclock hold at the closer ranges 100 yards.    Point of impact is about 18" high when using the long distance (300 yard) rear sight.  Did that accidently a couple times. 

edit to add: Found the old thread linked below.