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Underwood - Star stamp on front receiver lug

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Topic: Underwood - Star stamp on front receiver lug
Posted By: SSNPingjockey
Subject: Underwood - Star stamp on front receiver lug
Date Posted: Nov 09 2020 at 7:38pm


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Chad
USN Retired



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Posted By: SSNPingjockey
Date Posted: Nov 09 2020 at 7:42pm
Sorry for the terrible picture post. Don’t think I quite got the hang of that...fort post.

Anyway, this is the front lug on an Underwood receiver s/n 142XXXX.  I have 3 other UEF carbines and they don’t have this star stamp. Anyone else seen this star stamp before?  Thoughts?

Thanks

Chad


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Chad
USN Retired


Posted By: hunterman
Date Posted: Nov 09 2020 at 8:38pm
Here's the front lug on my 1.414xxx Underwood.   Someone here is keeping notes on these Underwood markings.



Posted By: m1a1fan
Date Posted: Nov 09 2020 at 9:08pm
That would be me. Not a lot of time for much of anything, but will reach out when I can.

Only a few have been noted in a relatively narrow UW serial number range. Most probably don’t notice the mark since it is an rarely checked. Its meaning is unknown.

Threads here

http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/Forum/unusual-marking-on-receiver_topic4591_post34274.html?KW=Asterix#34274" rel="nofollow - http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/Forum/unusual-marking-on-receiver_topic4591_post34274.html?KW=Asterix#34274


And the one I have here
http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/Forum/underwood-1422081_topic3776_post25087.html?KW=Asterix#25087" rel="nofollow - http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/Forum/underwood-1422081_topic3776_post25087.html?KW=Asterix#25087



Posted By: kro1970
Date Posted: Nov 10 2020 at 11:31am

This is my 1415XXX


Posted By: SSNPingjockey
Date Posted: Nov 10 2020 at 4:14pm
Outstanding!  The S/N of mine, for record/tracking purposes is: 1428882

Another carbine mystery to solve!

Very interesting how it appears, from the links attached, to be nothing but a 1.41 and 1.42 serials, thus far.

Much appreciate the info.
Chad


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Chad
USN Retired


Posted By: m1a1fan
Date Posted: Nov 10 2020 at 8:57pm
Thanks Chad and everyone who have provided examples.

The earliest known example has a circular mark. There are some slight variations in the shape of the star markings, but still a star.





Marking

Serial Number
Barrel Date
Star
Asterisk
Other
1414xxx
unknownYes
No
Circle
1415xxx
unknown
YesNo
None
1415219
1-43
Yes
No
None
1419408
unknownYesYesNone
1422081
5-43
No
YesNone
1422xxx
unknownNo
YesNone
1428641
unknownYesNo
None
1428882
unknownYesNo
None


Not many known examples so far. Have a few theories, but purpose remains unknown.


Posted By: SSNPingjockey
Date Posted: Nov 21 2020 at 9:03pm
Check this out. An Underwood flat bolt “WU” also marked on the bolt lug with a stamped star. Any ideas or comments to on the reason for this star?

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Chad
USN Retired


Posted By: m1a1fan
Date Posted: Nov 22 2020 at 10:29pm
No, First I've seen one. Is the bolt parked? Was it in a 1.4 UW?


Posted By: SSNPingjockey
Date Posted: Nov 22 2020 at 11:25pm
I don’t know what it came out of.  It is being sold as a complete bolt assembly on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-GI-M1-WWII-CARBINE-FLAT-BOLT-ASSEMBLY-UNDERWOOD-MARKED-WU-ITEM-UND-1-/313303639804?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-GI-M1-WWII-CARBINE-FLAT-BOLT-ASSEMBLY-UNDERWOOD-MARKED-WU-ITEM-UND-1-/313303639804?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

I wonder if the source or meaning of the star is the same on both the bolt and the receiver?





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Chad
USN Retired


Posted By: Johnboy490
Date Posted: Nov 23 2020 at 1:51pm
Hi, I have an Underwood that has this star, serial 1428641 all original,


Posted By: W5USMC
Date Posted: Nov 23 2020 at 2:16pm
Not sure where I got this picture but here is another WU bolt with a star.



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Wayne
USMC Retired
NRA Life Member


Posted By: GotSnlB28
Date Posted: Jul 20 2021 at 8:58pm
Underwood 1422xxx has the asterisk style star on the front of the receiver lug. Consistent style with the serials in close proximity from @m1a1fan's chart.



Posted By: m1a1fan
Date Posted: Jul 20 2021 at 10:16pm
Similar marks on receiver and bolts noted. Added 1422xxx. Added new column for barrel date.



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