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July 1945 Built Winchester

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    Posted: Oct 23 2021 at 9:49pm
Picked this Battle hardened late Winchester from Ken Otero. Its all correct Winchester parts and stock. 
You can tell from the machining marks that they were building these late War Carbines Hard & Fast...

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Looks like it's been to hell and back!
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Nice pick up. Ken has always had nice stuff and is great to work with. Hope he makes it to the SOS in February.
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Great looking rifle! While the stock does look to have been around the block a couple of times, the receiver, (especially around the chamber and feed ramp), the mag catch, and other visible internals, look to be mostly crisp. The feed ramp on my NPM shooter actually has two distinct depressions on both halves of the ramp with a small swale raised up in the middle of it.
Great addition, BUT put me solidly in the camp of "you're not through yet":)

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IF I were to add just one more to somehow cram into the Cabinet, I would really only be interested in adding another Rock-Ola to the Stable. 

That's the one Make that I'm drawn to because of my Grandfathers Carbine being the 1st Rifle I ever owned, and Rock-Ola's making fewer than the other makers, and its beautiful wood. 

I was given the late RC by my Grandfather, and I was given the Inland 270 by a long time Marine friend, and honestly I picked up the Inland 3446 just to compare what my 270's pre-production (test?) parts looked like as compared to the earliest post testing parts.  

I got the two Winchesters just because of their makers historical US Military weapons connection and I feel that niche is complete with the early and late two I have.  

I know others are very interested in IPs, S'G',s and other Makes for different reasons but I'm really not drawn in any way to those other makers :-) 

Rock-Olas call to me like Aztec Gold though :-) 
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"Rock-Olas call to me like Aztec Gold though:-)"

I know exactly what you mean but in my case I'm partial to Postal Meters. My 95 year old WWII vet Dad retired after 41 years with the USPS back in the early 90's and from the first time I learned that NPM was a manufacturer, it seemed like a natural. Not to say I wouldn't love to have a Rock-Ola (for the cool factor) or a Winchester (just because it's a Winchester) but based on no more than that, It's NPM for me.
Oh, and speaking of my dad, I went out to his place yesterday afternoon to sight an optical on an AR as he has relatively unlimited room to shoot compared to me and took the 4.14 NPM (the mixmaster) with me. I asked him if he wanted to fire a few rounds thru it and he put six of seven in 6" circle offhand at 30-40 yards. Not going to get him to Camp Perry but not bad. I shouldn't be surprised though. He doesn't look or seem his age at all. He has even had people challenge him in public when wearing his WWII veteran hat. He never says a word back to them, just quietly pulls out his drivers license and watches them skulk away mumbling an apology.

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Sounds like you truly get where I’m coming from. I hesitate to even mention my lack of interest in other makers and models because I don’t want to offend the longtime Carbine collectors who genuinely are drawn to all makes and models. I just applaud their interest and enthusiasm :-)

That’s really nice you’re able to visit with your father. And that he’s able to still get out and shoot. What a great generation! We had to move my 86-year-old Marine father into a nursing home about a year and a half ago due to the onset of dementia. One thing he has not forgotten is that he is a Marine and he smiles and sits up a little straighter every time I talk to him about it.
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I don't have any favorite maker. What interests me mostly is the oddball stuff like lineouts or rare variations. It doesn't matter what make. Almost everyone has their own little niche that they particularly enjoy. But isn't that what collecting is all about? The thrill of the hunt and the war whoop when you find one????
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Yes!!!

Marcus Rust has an absolutely amazing collection of what you call oddball Carbines that has quite a few line-thru’s and he just recently educated me on the rationale behind one maker sending their receiver to another makers plant in order to get it finished quicker to get on the boat to get overseas to the War faster. Absolutely amazing cooperation and collaboration in that Great War effort. America at its best demonstrated in these amazing M1 carbine’s.
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Marcus and I have corresponded for years. I have access to his on line photo collection. Incredible stuff.
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nice! I would love to find a 7mil Winchester that’s correct/original. 
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