IBM Trigger Guard Marking

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   Hello everyone,I picked
this up from my Gunsmith.  He didn't have a need for it and sold it to me
for $65.

I would
like to know if it is real or a reproduction.  Your brutally honest
opinion is respectfully requested.

All the
IBM Receivers I have seen have had the “BE-B” marking, read from top to bottom
from the REAR View.  However, this one has a
marking of “B-BE” (with a sideways number 1 as the dash) and is read from
Bottom to Top from the Front View.  (I used
Flower packed into the lettering to make it more visable)

I have
gone through past post on strange markings and only found 1 reference to an IBM
B-BE marking on trigger guards.  In the same post there was a mention of
different types of markings for the "-" in between the letters.

Could
someone please tell me if I just wasted $65 and as my departed father use to
say “Bought Something I Can’t Eat” (Big Smile)

Very
respectfully,

Da1Chief

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Da1Chief Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List On Point Joined: Oct 16 2021 Location: Suffolk, VA Status: Offline Points: 127	Post Options Post Reply Quote Da1Chief Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: IBM Trigger Guard Marking Posted: Aug 16 2022 at 5:48pm
	Hello everyone, I picked this up from my Gunsmith. He didn't have a need for it and sold it to me for $65. I would like to know if it is real or a reproduction. Your brutally honest opinion is respectfully requested. All the IBM Receivers I have seen have had the “BE-B” marking, read from top to bottom from the REAR View. However, this one has a marking of “B-BE” (with a sideways number 1 as the dash) and is read from Bottom to Top from the Front View. (I used Flower packed into the lettering to make it more visable) I have gone through past post on strange markings and only found 1 reference to an IBM B-BE marking on trigger guards. In the same post there was a mention of different types of markings for the "-" in between the letters. Could someone please tell me if I just wasted $65 and as my departed father use to say “Bought Something I Can’t Eat” (Big Smile) Very respectfully, Da1Chief
	Very respectfully, Da1Chief DPC,RMC,ITC(SW) USN Retired

Da1Chief Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List On Point Joined: Oct 16 2021 Location: Suffolk, VA Status: Offline Points: 127	Post Options Post Reply Quote Da1Chief Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 16 2022 at 5:52pm
	Correction ---- Instead of "B-BE" it is "B-EB" Sorry for the error my fingers got carried away. V/r Da1Chief
	Very respectfully, Da1Chief DPC,RMC,ITC(SW) USN Retired

W5USMC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: Apr 29 2017 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 2861	Post Options Post Reply Quote W5USMC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 16 2022 at 6:22pm
	No, you did not waste your $65. Both markings are legit. Edited by W5USMC - Aug 16 2022 at 6:46pm
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Smokpole Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Joined: Oct 21 2019 Location: Madison ohio Status: Offline Points: 991	Post Options Post Reply Quote Smokpole Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 16 2022 at 6:41pm
	Yup! There were a couple of variations of the BE-B/B-EB markings.
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welbytwo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Advanced Collector Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 787	Post Options Post Reply Quote welbytwo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 16 2022 at 11:04pm
	to me the BE-B in big letters with no bed in between tend to be earlier guns---I have to admit it looks like a sideways one-never thought of it in those terms--was a bed to me

Smokpole Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Joined: Oct 21 2019 Location: Madison ohio Status: Offline Points: 991	Post Options Post Reply Quote Smokpole Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 17 2022 at 3:45pm
	Marcus, that is the third one that I've seen where the dash appears to be a 1. It is unusual, but they are out there.
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New2brass Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Dan Pinto, Photo Editor Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CT Status: Offline Points: 4495	Post Options Post Reply Quote New2brass Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 17 2022 at 7:15pm
	CCNL 329-7 stated BE-B, B-EB with some data sheets the dash looking like an I. If you look real close you will see it is neither a 1 or an I There are also some that were electro penciled.
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Why Carbines? Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Joined: Dec 27 2015 Location: Tennessee Status: Offline Points: 873	Post Options Post Reply Quote Why Carbines? Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 17 2022 at 7:49pm
	There was an unfounded rumor going around years ago that one size and/or style of font went to Standard Products and another style stayed with IBM. Amazing how stuff like that gets started.

Da1Chief Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List On Point Joined: Oct 16 2021 Location: Suffolk, VA Status: Offline Points: 127	Post Options Post Reply Quote Da1Chief Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 17 2022 at 11:53pm
	Gentlemen I wish to thank you all. I have/had never seen one marked like that and I could not find it anywhere I looked. I can’t thank you enough. I will post up a complete set of pics on Thursday. Very respectively Da1Chief Sandy to my friends
	Very respectfully, Da1Chief DPC,RMC,ITC(SW) USN Retired