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jackp1028
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It’s been a while since the last update, so here it goes. This is very similar to the last update in that it revises links to the LR Collection posts to reflect the “Sold” items. Also a few member’s carbines are being added along with some new CMP Auction carbines (including the Winchester that was refinished). Saginaw and NPM Spread Sheets have not changed.
Inland Rev 26 Added links to the post where these X suffixed Inlands were mentioned. Unfortunately there were no pictures or Data Sheets posted. S/N 941258X (SSNPingjockey's Inland) S/N 945784X (Bubba-7’s Inland S/N 947620X (Bubba-7’s Inland) S/N 948023X (Chipin’s Inland) S/N 44 Revised LR Collection Link S/N 435004 Revised LR Collection Link S/N XC9 Revised LR Collection Link Added S/N 5237546 (ArturS’s Inland) Rock-Ola Rev 16 Added the following w/Type 1 Spring Tube Receivers S/N 1662521 S/N 1665165 S/N 1665311 Added S/N 1672810 (Rcycles45 Rock-Ola) IBM Rev 15 Added S/N 3852420 (Pete51577’s IBM) Underwood Rev 19 S/N 2490363 Revised LR Collection Link S/N 2482283 Revised LR Collection Link Standard Products Rev 13 S/N 2089570 Added CMP Auction Listing IP/Saginaw GR Rev 18 S/N 1765761 Revised LR Collection Link S/N 1777954 Revised LR Collection Link S/N 1822853 Revised LR Collection Link S/N 3232731 Added CMP Auction Listing Winchester Rev 21 S/N 1024697 Revised LR Collection Link S/N 1027492 Added CMP Auction Listing (Refinished) Added Pre-production Prototype, LR Collection Quality Hardware Rev 16 S/N 4448676 Added CMP Auction Listing S/N Q-EX/4 Revised LR Collection Link |
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jackp1028
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As mentioned in a previous post, when carbines from the Larry Ruth collection are sold, the post for the listing will be moved from the "For Sale" thread to the "Sold" thread. The Spread Sheets have been updated to reflect these link changes so that users will continue to have quick access to all the original posts.
Also, additional Larry Ruth Estate sale listings have been added to the Spread Sheets, noted below. Inland Added S/N 289 Added S/N XG67 Underwood Added S/N 4025211 Added S/N E-158 Added S/N 2490363 Standard Products Added S/N 2203018 IP/Saginaw GR Added S/N 1822853 National Postal Meter Added S/N 4308995 Other additions include: S/N 14880xx (Bkell3563’s NPM) S/N’s 1470868 and 1507630 (jangle’s NPM’s) |
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Dan Pinto
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@jack The cmp sometimes receives donations of carbines from individual as a donation. It is possible someone bought it. Swapped parts and then donated
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Oldboy53
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Good morning Mike.
Firstly, you should join this little community. There are many knowledgeable folks here that can answer any number of questions you might have. That would also allow you to post pics of your carbine(s), and who doesn't like pics? Secondly, the spread sheets show that s/n's probable 'made by' date would have been April '44. Hope that helps you. There's a link to the spread sheets back at the beginning of this thread. Best regards, Lou.
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Mike Mcdonough
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I have a National Postal Meter serial # 4300925. That would put it late 43 or early 44. It has an undated IBM Corp barrel. Thanks
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jackp1028
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I have only seen the CMP data sheet pages on new listings. At least it looks like they kept all the original parts together when they refinished this carbine.
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MilsurpsUSGI
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Most Early and Winchester Parts??
I kinda wonder about that statement, especially if you start counting them. Are the "parts listing pages" (with references) following the pictures something new, or have they been doing that for awhile? I'd much rather have the original finish with the blued bolt. - Bob |
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jackp1028
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As I prepare to update the Serial Number Spread Sheets, one step I take is to see if there are any "new" CMP Auctions to be added. It turns out that there has only been one since the last update, but this one is unique.
https://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=8170&n=M1-Carbine-Winchester-Service-Grade-1027492 It turns out that this one was already in the Spread Sheet from a previous auction. It is not uncommon for there to be multiple Completed Auctions for the same serial number. I guess an auction transaction can be cancelled for some unknown reason and the item relisted. What is not common is that the carbine has been refinished since the first listing which is the case for this carbine. Take a look at the original listing here to see the difference. https://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=2131&n=M1-Carbine-Winchester-1027492 It looks like all the original parts are the same but with a fresh Parkerized finish. I have never seen this before! I guess you can't always count on CMP Auction carbines to be un-altered. Has anyone noticed this before? |
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A lot has happened since the last Serial Number Spread Sheet update. Nearly 100 new serial numbers have been added affecting every prime contractor. These include:
Added 28 carbines from the KSC Recovered Carbines article http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/carbines-recovered-from-the-korean-war-battlefield_topic6625.html Added 40 carbines from the following Larry Ruth Collection Posts Larry Ruth Collection: The Collectibles! http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/larry-ruth-collection-the-collectibles_topic6579.html?SID=7568-b4e4a3f743e29ba896bd7734837963#55374 Larry Ruth Collection: War Baby GI Carbines http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/larry-ruth-collection-war-baby-gi-carbines_topic6547.html#55307 Sold: Carbines from the Larry Ruth Collection http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/sold-carbines-from-the-larry-ruth-collection_topic6550.html#55492 Note: As the Larry Ruth carbines are being sold the posts are being removed from the “For Sale” threads and added to the “Sold” thread. This may result in the links changing in the Spread Sheets over time but all the images will continue to be available on the Club Forum. Added 16 Winchester carbines from the “Perry Six” and “Box-of-Ten” articles in CCNL #371 Added S/N 7245907 (HammerGrunt’s Winchester carbine) Added S/N 6502490 (wpmcqjr’s Winchester carbine) |
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jackp1028
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Oops! Sorry. I'll fix it in the next release.
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pchanu
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Hi Jack,
The 2676 Inland became 2767 on the sheet 😜 Patrick
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The following Serial Number Spread Sheets have been updated to reflect the noted additions.
Inland Rev 23 Corrected barrel date on S/N 812714 Added S/N 3167679 (Lightning330’s Inland) Added S/N 5211723 (Rebel92’s Inland) Added S/N 2676 (pchanu’s Inland) Added 8 USS Hornet Armory Inland carbine S/N’s RockOla Rev 13 Added S/N 6216033 (Hammergrunt’s Rockola) QHMC Rev 14 Added S/N 4432997 (French addict’s Un-Quality) IBM Rev 12 Added 15 USS Hornet Armory IBM carbine S/N’s Underwood Rev 16 Added 1 USS Hornet Armory UEF carbine S/N Winchester Rev 19 Added 68 USS Hornet Armory WRA carbine S/N’s |
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They all work fine on my Laptop. THANK YOU Jack for all the awesome research and work you put into these Data Sheets. I just sent you a PM with a very late Rock Ola that you can add to that list if you like.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays All from Florida!
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Rebel92
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For a millennial I am not good with technology. It still don’t work. I have checked my downloads and even you tubed it. Guess I need to get my computer out. I had ran in this a while back looking at other carbines, helping me learn what “real ones” look like. Some worked, some didn’t, but I eventually just started copying and pasting the url into the search bar on google and following the link from there
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New2brass
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My computer browser I get a pop up asking to open, dowload, and a third option? My
phone just downloads it and I get a tiny notification. If i miss the
notification I have to look in my download folder, which android does
not make easy. Some phones may need an app to see the files.
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UPDATE: I think if I had waited a little longer the Inland page would have appeared after the download was complete. Once downloaded the page now appears instantly.
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jackp1028
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@Rebel92, check the download folder of your device. My Android also shows a blank page but the Inland file is actually already downloaded. All I had to do is click on the file name in the download folder. The file is not that big (760 kb).
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Oldboy53
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Inland made so many, maybe the file size is too big for your phone?
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Wait, nope ain’t working on my phone. Interesting. Other links work find. Edited by Rebel92 - Dec 22 2022 at 11:28pm |
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W5USMC
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The link to your 5,470,895 works for me.
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